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Question regarding purchasing TOMI

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I have really been looking forward to playing both TOMI and SOMI:SE but I was saddened to find out that I am unable to play SOMI: SE because it requires you have Steam (and thus an Internet connection). I do not have an internet connection on the PC I use for gaming (and can not afford one), so my question is:

Am I able to purchase TOMI on my dad's Mac (or on the PC at my social club) and then burn the installer to a DVD-R, to play on my PC when I get back home?

I really hope the answer is yes because, frankly, all this Internet connection requirement for every F***ing single player game released these days is forcing me to give up on new games and I don't think that's fair! I've already had to miss out on the likes of Bioshock, The Orange Box (and all the games within), Stalker and GTA IV.

Infact, things are so bad that when I purchased a boxed copy of the game Auidosurf a while back, I only realised an Internet connection was required once I got back home. The writing stating such was in a tiny (and we're talking almost unreadable) font on the lower part of the box (not even within the system requirements box).

Anyway, the shop I had purchased it from refuse to give refunds unless the game is broken (thanks GAME, hmph), so I ended up having to download a pirated and cracked copy of Audiosurf just so I could play a game I'd already payed for. Now, if this is the state of things then can someone please explain to me how this overprotective DRM is a good thing? Also consider that EA recently took a risk and scrapped DRM for the Sims 3 and it went straight to No. 1 in the charts... says it all really!

Anywho, sorry about the long rant but I really hope that you're going to tell me that I will be able to play TOMI because if not then gaming can go F*** itself (sorry for coming across as mega-angry but I'm just so upset at missing out on SOMI:SE when I've waiting so damn long for a new MI release). I look forward to your response, Thanks.

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  • I think you will have to buy it and then get a crack for it so it can be used on other computers. Sadly today game companies expect everyone to be online 24/7 and most never games require such. I guess if possible for you, then get the installer, run it on your computer, then get a temporary Internet connection on your computer untill you have registered your game and logged in with your Telltale games login.

    To avoid steam, just buy it directly on this site. ToMI at least doesnt have to be downloaded through steam. MI:SE seems to require that. In that case you might be required to install steam, download the game to it with an Internet connection, then playing it on your comp with steam in offline mode.

    A problem with Monkey Island SE could be that its really big, 1,5gb I think. So your computer might need using an Internet connection for a while. Dont remember how big ToMI is.

  • Thanks for the reply kblood. I'm really upset to hear this news and sadly hooking my computer up to the internet temporarily isn't an option as my computer doesn't have a modem (silly I know but I had to save money on my new system somehow).

    I guess my next question is, if I wait until TOMI's season is complete and order the DVD boxset from TellTale, will I able to play offline? This was the case with seasons' 1 & 2 of Sam and Max. I really hope TellTale does the same for Monkey Island because this seems like a fair trade off for those without Internet connections at least.

    I suppose the only other possibility would be to download a cracked version of the game and then pay TellTale (even though I wouldn't actually be downloading the games from them). I can't be alone in thinking that this would just prove that DRM is a waste of time?!

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    In your situation it does appear to be problematic.

    I would suggest you (or you and your dad go halves) get a wireless router and a wi-fi usb dongle for your pc and connect that way. No cables needed, no modem needed, no network cards needed.

    It may not be ideal for you but it's an option none the less. :)

  • @Davies said: I have really been looking forward to playing both TOMI and SOMI:SE but I was saddened to find out that I am unable to play SOMI: SE because it requires you have Steam (and thus an Internet connection). I do not have an internet connection on the PC I use for gaming (and can not afford one), so my question is:

    Am I able to purchase TOMI on my dad's Mac (or on the PC at my social club) and then burn the installer to a DVD-R, to play on my PC when I get back home?

    I really hope the answer is yes because, frankly, all this Internet connection requirement for every F***ing single player game released these days is forcing me to give up on new games and I don't think that's fair! I've already had to miss out on the likes of Bioshock, The Orange Box (and all the games within), Stalker and GTA IV.

    Infact, things are so bad that when I purchased a boxed copy of the game Auidosurf a while back, I only realised an Internet connection was required once I got back home. The writing stating such was in a tiny (and we're talking almost unreadable) font on the lower part of the box (not even within the system requirements box).

    Anyway, the shop I had purchased it from refuse to give refunds unless the game is broken (thanks GAME, hmph), so I ended up having to download a pirated and cracked copy of Audiosurf just so I could play a game I'd already payed for. Now, if this is the state of things then can someone please explain to me how this overprotective DRM is a good thing? Also consider that EA recently took a risk and scrapped DRM for the Sims 3 and it went straight to No. 1 in the charts... says it all really!

    Anywho, sorry about the long rant but I really hope that you're going to tell me that I will be able to play TOMI because if not then gaming can go F*** itself (sorry for coming across as mega-angry but I'm just so upset at missing out on SOMI:SE when I've waiting so damn long for a new MI release). I look forward to your response, Thanks.

    Yes, you're screwed with regards to SOMI:SE right now.

    Better news with TOMI - my gaming PC is not connected to the net(and never will be) so that I don't have to slow it down with firewalls, AV and the like, so I was in the same boat. But if you run the installer, you'll find there's a "manual unlock" option, where you put in your serial number and it spits out a code. Email telltale with that code, the serial number and the game you're playing and they will send you back another code that allows you to play without an internet connection.

  • Viz, that's an interesting solution that I wasn't aware of. I don't suppose you know how much that might cost me and also would I need to subscribe to some kind of provider (such as a phone company or AOL)?

    lord darkstorm, thanks for the information. That is a nice workaround on the part of TellTale (if a little convoluted).

    Back to my previous question, does anyone know if the boxed DVD release will be DRM free, ala Sam and Max?

  • @viz said: In your situation it does appear to be problematic.

    I would suggest you (or you and your dad go halves) get a wireless router and a wi-fi usb dongle for your pc and connect that way. No cables needed, no modem needed, no network cards needed.

    It may not be ideal for you but it's an option none the less. :)

    a wireles router has to be connected to a internet service provider of some description, which is usually on a contract so i dont see how that would work, unless you just got a wireless usb stick and used a friends router at their house or log in at an internet cafe or some other place with wifi. .. or you could just use a friends modem with an ethernet cable.

    then again all that would only work for the initial download - i think with tomi at least it looks on the internet for registration every time you play? you could wait for the dvd then i think the only drm telltale have is a disc check so you'd be ok

    maybe you mean a pay as you go mobile broadband stick? where you pay for a certain amount of gigabyte usage per month, put it in your pcs usb port and connect to the internet like internet on a mobile phone. You dont have to pay for the gigabytes you dont use, like a pay as you go mobile phone.

  • One of my friends connects to the Internet via a USB stick, via his mobile phone but I'll be honest; this kind of technology confuses the heck out of me. I understood the net when it was as simple as having a 56k modem, which plugs into your phone line... ever since then I'm just lost *sigh*

    I will look forward to the DVD release of TOMI and will pray that the CD checker is the ONLY copy protection in place but I sometimes feel that I'll have to pretend that games stopped getting made around the year 2000.

    I would just like to say that I think all this Internet DRM is a big load of nonsense because I checked when TOMI was released in cracked form and it was available, pirated, on the same date as the official release. So, that means that people who want to pay nothing get to play the game regardless of the DRM and people who want to play the game and have the Internet get to play the game and then there's people like me, who are more or less screwed.

    Whilst I do appreciate the suggestions of the people who have responded to my question, I also feel it's a lot of effort to go through to play a single player adventure game on a PC which is able to run the likes of Fallout 3 with no worries and at a healthy resolution (a DRM free game that went to No. 1 in the charts - getting the picture here?).

    In summary, I firmly believe that DRM does NOT stop pirating but it DOES punish real customers. Infact, even if I did have an Internet connection on my PC, I would still be pissed off at having a company checking up on me every time I try to play a game that I've paid for. It's rather like having an over protective mother, who insists on checking your pockets for smack every time you try to leave the house (even if you've never gone near drugs your whole life).

    Let's get this straight... If someone has a pirate (and cracked) copy of TOMI then they can play without the anti-piracy police breathing down their neck but if you do pay Telltale for their efforts, then it's gonna be Watch-with-Mother time!

    Q: How is that right or fair?
    A: It ain't.

    While you all enjoy the latest slice of monkey lovin', I guess I'll try to beat my high-score on Marble Madness...again! :mad:

  • Did you see Darkstorm's post? You can play ToMI on a non-internet computer, just takes some communication with Telltale's support team:

    @lord darkstorm said:
    Better news with TOMI - my gaming PC is not connected to the net(and never will be) so that I don't have to slow it down with firewalls, AV and the like, so I was in the same boat. But if you run the installer, you'll find there's a "manual unlock" option, where you put in your serial number and it spits out a code. Email telltale with that code, the serial number and the game you're playing and they will send you back another code that allows you to play without an internet connection.

  • @LuigiHann said: Did you see Darkstorm's post? You can play ToMI on a non-internet computer, just takes some communication with Telltale's support team:

    I know but that would mean I'd have to send an e-mail for each episode and how quickly would I even get the activation code back?! It all seems rather silly to me and I think I'll hold out until the DVD release because I don't agree with having DRM in the first place so I'll vote with my wallet.

  • @Davies said: I know but that would mean I'd have to send an e-mail for each episode and how quickly would I even get the activation code back?!


    Telltale's response times have been pretty good, actually. I've never waited more than a day for a response from Telltale support, and on a good day I've gotten a reply within *minutes*.

    It all seems rather silly to me and I think I'll hold out until the DVD release because I don't agree with having DRM in the first place so I'll vote with my wallet.


    The DVD just uses a disc check, as long as it's in line with all of their DVDs since...at least Sam and Max Season Two.

    (a DRM free game that went to No. 1 in the charts - getting the picture here?).


    Yes. A game with a multi-million dollar budget and mass market appeal sold a lot of copies.

    In summary, I firmly believe that DRM does NOT stop pirating but it DOES punish real customers. Infact, even if I did have an Internet connection on my PC, I would still be pissed off at having a company checking up on me every time I try to play a game that I've paid for.


    Actually they don't. The check is done *once*. Once the check goes through that one time, it doesn't ask for activation again. You can play it offline and you can play it online without it doing anything.

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