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Shadows in "back to the future"

posted by SANAFABICH on - last edited - Viewed by 247 users

This applies to episodes 1, 2 and 3.
If shadows are maxed out (2 bars), game will crash. If set to only 1 bar, game will run but shadows look like crap (pixelated and distorted) most of the time, specially on characters.

What's up with that? Currently playing on a ATI Radeon x1950pro (SM 3.0 support). I know it's old but so far I have been able to play games like Dead Space 2, Batman: Arkham Asylum, etc, with everything maxed out. You get the idea.

Any kind developer out there who can possibly know what is going on with this issue?

Also, anyone care to share a screenshot of how shadows maxed out (2 bars) look on character models?

So far I've opted to play with shadows set to 0 bars, because yes they look that distracting and ruin the experience. But unfortunately that also means characters won't cast any shadow on the ground, which look kind of flat.

Thanks in advance.
Edit: Added "Episode 3"

9 Comments - Linear Discussion: Classic Style
  • could be a graphic driver related problem. problem is, as far as i know the last catalyst that supports the x19xx cards is 9.3

    http://www.pcper.com/comments.php?nid=6855

  • 10.2 actually. It's the same game engine than TOMI as far as I know, so there must be something about the shadows that they implemented for this game.

  • okay, so you can use later catalyst with your card, great.

    the last one is 11.2, have you tried it yet?

    http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/downloads.aspx

    you know what's weird? i just checked, and i got only 2 bars for shadow settings?!?!

    got a radeon 4870, so i dont get why you got 3 with an older card? wtf? :confused:

    but shadows look pretty fine for me

    test3yek.png

  • My mistake, there are only 2 bars.

  • OK this is what I'm talking about: weird looking shadows on characters faces.
    Would be nice to hear from any of the developers:

    21esz6c.jpg

  • Can I take a look at your DXDiag?

    Windows XP: Go to your start menu and click on run. Type in "dxdiag" and hit enter
    Windows Vista / 7: Press the windows key on your keyboard or click on the start menu. Type in "dxdiag" and hit enter.

    Now click on the button that says "save all information". It will prompt you to save a file. Since I cannot receive attachments, I'll need you to cut and paste the contents into this message for me.

  • @Amy Lukima said: Can I take a look at your DXDiag?


    Hello Amy, and thank you for replying. Here's the DXDiag info:

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    Time of this report: 4/4/2011, 21:23:53
    Machine name: XXXX
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    Language: Spanish (Regional Setting: Spanish)
    System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
    System Model: MS-7312
    BIOS: )Phoenix - Award WorkstationBIOS v6.00PG
    Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3600+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~1.9GHz
    Memory: 2046MB RAM
    Page File: 578MB used, 3361MB available
    Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
    DX Setup Parameters: Not found
    DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode

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    DxDiag Notes
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    DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
    Display Tab 1: The file ati2dvag.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
    Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
    Music Tab: No problems found.
    Input Tab: No problems found.
    Network Tab: No problems found.

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    DirectX Debug Levels
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    DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
    DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
    DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
    DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
    DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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    WHQL Date Stamp: None
    VDD: no disponible
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    Registry: OK
    DDraw Status: Enabled
    D3D Status: Enabled
    AGP Status: Enabled
    DDraw Test Result: Not run
    D3D7 Test Result: Not run
    D3D8 Test Result: Not run
    D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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    Sound Devices
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    Description: C-Media PCI Audio
    Default Sound Playback: Yes
    Default Voice Playback: Yes
    Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_13F6&DEV_0111&SUBSYS_011113F6&REV_10
    Manufacturer ID: 1
    Product ID: 100
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    Driver Attributes: Final Debug
    WHQL Logo'd: Yes
    Date and Size: 12/3/2008 15:32:06, 1519424 bytes
    Other Files:
    Driver Provider: C-Media Electronics Inc.
    HW Accel Level: Full
    Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 192000
    Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 65, 64
    Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 65, 64
    HW Memory: 0
    Voice Management: Yes
    EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
    I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
    Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
    Registry: OK
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    Sound Capture Devices
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    Description: C-Media PCI Audio
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    Default Voice Capture: Yes
    Driver Name: cmudax3.sys
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    DirectMusic
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    MPU-401, Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
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    Sint. SW de tabla de ondas GS [Emulado], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
    MPU-401 [Emulado], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
    MPU-401 [Emulado], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
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    DirectInput Devices
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    Device Name: Mouse
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    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Device Name: Teclado
    Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
    Vendor/Product ID: n/a
    FF Driver: n/a

    Poll w/ Interrupt: No
    Registry: OK

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    USB Devices
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    + Concentrador raíz USB
    | Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
    | Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
    | Service: usbhub
    | Driver: usbhub.sys, 4/14/2008 01:15:38, 59520 bytes
    | Driver: usbd.sys, 8/24/2001 07:00:00, 4736 bytes

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    Gameport Devices
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    + Teclado estándar de 101/102 teclas o Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    | Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
    | Service: i8042prt
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    | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 08:25:10, 25088 bytes
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    + Controlador de teclado de Terminal Server
    | Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
    | Upper Filters: kbdclass
    | Service: TermDD
    | Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 08:49:44, 40840 bytes
    | Driver: kbdclass.sys, 4/14/2008 08:25:10, 25088 bytes
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    | Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_mouse
    | Service: mouhid
    | Driver: mouclass.sys, 4/14/2008 09:01:54, 23552 bytes
    | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/24/2001 07:00:00, 12416 bytes
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    + Controlador de mouse de Terminal Server
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    | Service: TermDD
    | Driver: termdd.sys, 4/14/2008 08:49:44, 40840 bytes
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    DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
    DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
    DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
    Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
    IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
    Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)
    Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.5512)

    DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
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    DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM2
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    System Devices
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    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.5512 (English), 4/14/2008 08:49:20, 23552 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\cmudax3.sys, 5.12.0001.0008 (English), 12/3/2008 15:32:06, 1519424 bytes
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    Name: Controladora VIA de CPU a AGP
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    Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
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    Name: VIA Standard PCI to ISA Bridge
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    Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
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    Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
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    Driver: n/a

    Name: VIA Bus Master IDE Controller - 0571
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    Driver: n/a

    Name: VIA Standard Host Bridge
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0204&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&13C0B0C5&0&00
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Puente PCI de CPU host estándar
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    Driver: n/a

    Name: Puente PCI de CPU host estándar
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    Driver: n/a

    Name: Puente PCI de CPU host estándar
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    Driver: n/a

    Name: Puente PCI de CPU host estándar
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1022&DEV_1100&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&13C0B0C5&0&C0
    Driver: n/a

    Name: Radeon X1950 Pro Secondary
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    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6925 (Spanish), 2/11/2010 04:38:10, 3565056 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0018 (English), 2/11/2010 01:19:08, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6925 (English), 2/11/2010 01:45:14, 325120 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2cqag.dll, 6.14.0010.0413 (English), 2/11/2010 00:47:50, 626688 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 6.14.0010.2495 (English), 2/11/2010 01:35:32, 26112 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0647 (English), 2/11/2010 01:25:10, 3818144 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.dll, 6.14.0010.0218 (English), 2/11/2010 01:12:24, 2670592 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiicdxx.dat, 4/23/2009 19:29:16, 189051 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativva5x.dat, 2/11/2010 01:12:00, 3107788 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativva6x.dat, 2/11/2010 01:12:00, 887724 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\amdpcom32.dll, 6.14.0010.0023 (English), 2/11/2010 00:59:16, 49664 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiadlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.1032 (English), 2/11/2010 00:54:04, 126976 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativvaxx.cap, 2/11/2010 01:12:00, 152496 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0008 (English), 2/11/2010 01:32:36, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4200 (English), 2/11/2010 00:53:46, 17408 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 13:01:04, 24064 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4222 (English), 2/11/2010 01:33:56, 602112 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4178 (English), 2/11/2010 01:35:10, 155648 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2550 (English), 2/11/2010 01:36:00, 204800 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.15.0006.0004 (English), 2/11/2010 01:35:44, 155648 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2edxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2514 (English), 2/11/2010 01:35:24, 43520 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atikvmag.dll, 6.14.0010.0098 (Spanish), 2/11/2010 00:55:40, 475136 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atifglpf.xml, 8/31/2007 11:20:48, 7167 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDEMGX.dll, 2.00.3693.42787 (Spanish), 2/11/2010 01:46:14, 442368 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\aticaldd.dll, 6.14.0010.0227 (English), 2/11/2010 01:21:14, 3227648 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\aticalrt.dll, 6.14.0010.0227 (English), 2/11/2010 01:23:04, 45056 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\aticalcl.dll, 6.14.0010.0227 (English), 2/11/2010 01:22:52, 45056 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atibrtmon.exe, 2.00.0000.0000 (English), 10/21/2008 15:51:42, 118784 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiok3x2.dll, 6.14.0010.8545 (Spanish), 2/11/2010 01:37:08, 290816 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.8545 (English), 2/11/2010 02:17:44, 11845632 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.4006 (English), 2/11/2010 02:07:40, 307200 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\atiogl.xml, 4/16/2009 13:19:48, 15577 bytes

    Name: Radeon X1950 Pro
    Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_7280&SUBSYS_E190174B&REV_9A\4&26E5F5CD&0&0008
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6925 (Spanish), 2/11/2010 04:38:10, 3565056 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2erec.dll, 1.00.0000.0018 (English), 2/11/2010 01:19:08, 53248 bytes
    Driver: C:\WINDOWS\s

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    Ben Telltale Staff

    Our high quality shadows use a very expensive algorithm and it's likely your video card is just choking on it. Our low quality shadows use a very cheap and simple algorithm, but it kinda looks like crap.

    This is something that needs to improve for sure, but it's likely not going to make it in for BTTF. Implementing a new shadow system is a very serious undertaking.

    [EDIT]
    Just did a bit of research, and I see what's wrong. Different PS3.0 cards support different maximum shader lengths, and it looks like that particular card only supports the minimum PS3.0 length. This isn't enough for our most complicated high quality shadow shader. So it definitely won't work, no matter what you do with drivers or whatever. A newer (even slightly) GPU should have no problems. Sorry about that :-(

    That being said, we will hopefully have better and cheaper shadows in future series.

  • @Ben said:
    Just did a bit of research, and I see what's wrong. Different PS3.0 cards support different maximum shader lengths, and it looks like that particular card only supports the minimum PS3.0 length. This isn't enough for our most complicated high quality shadow shader. So it definitely won't work, no matter what you do with drivers or whatever. A newer (even slightly) GPU should have no problems. Sorry about that :-(

    That being said, we will hopefully have better and cheaper shadows in future series.



    Hey, that was a very informative reply, thank you! I was just curious since my GPU has full directX 9.0c support and it's top of the line, but apparently you can still improve further under certain API on the hardware side. Thanks!

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