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Where did original Doc go? And where is the new Marty?

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While I love playing these games, I'm a bit confused as to what happened to the original Doc, and why aren't their alternate Marty's? or why didn't Marty disappear?

So confused.. is this just a bad continuity issue that has just been skipped over to make more games?

At the end of Episode 4.. do the "new" old doc and edna just end up disappearing since Marty changed the timeline and they never got together?

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  • 1. Original Doc was 100-something years old, because he went to the future to live longer. The new Doc never did that, and died before hitting that age. So Original Doc disappeared from existence. The same thing happened to Old Biff in the movies (in a deleted scene)

    2) There is an alternate Marty, but he was out of hill valley when we got to visit the alternate timeline.

    3) Obviously, New Doc and Edna are still around, part 5 will see the conclusion.

  • whaaaat? when did doc go into the future to take something to live longer? in BTTF3, he was living in old west hillside for sometime before marty found him, and then he had a few kids with clara.. which i guess they didn't really address (where is his family?)

    but now you're saying that there's 3 Docs? now i'm even more confused than i was before heh

  • @shockme17 said: whaaaat? when did doc go into the future to take something to live longer? in BTTF3, he was living in old west hillside for sometime before marty found him, and then he had a few kids with clara.. which i guess they didn't really address (where is his family?)

    but now you're saying that there's 3 Docs? now i'm even more confused than i was before heh


    Back to the Future 1: Doc died. Marty messes around with history, Doc lives and travels into the future. While in the future, he had surgery/whatever done to 'take 30 years off his life' and increased his life expectancy. He mentions this in Back to the Future 2.

    So, first Doc is dead. Second one travelled to the future, then to the past, where he was killed. Marty's intervention created a third Doc (note: I'm not including 'unseen' Docs like the one in the future Hill Valley newspaper). Doc marries Clara, creates time train.

    Games: Doc is arrested, Marty saves. They go around time a little, accidently change Doc's history, Doc disappears. New Doc is created, who Marty meets as First Citizen Brown. This is the fourth Emmett Brown Marty has personally seen.


    I think Doc disappeared in Episode 3 because he attempted to time travel while his life was being 'rewritten'. You know how Marty kept fading out when he did something that would cause his history to change or to be erased? Travelling to his 'present' would appear to cause him to disappear. He only ever stayed in the past when that was happening, so he had more chances to set things back the way they were.

    Doc, however, noticed it was happening to him too late, and then the DeLorean jumped into the future, so Doc was instantly rewritten instead of being given the chance to set things right.

  • @shockme17 said: whaaaat? when did doc go into the future to take something to live longer? in BTTF3, he was living in old west hillside for sometime before marty found him, and then he had a few kids with clara.. which i guess they didn't really address (where is his family?)

    but now you're saying that there's 3 Docs? now i'm even more confused than i was before heh

    Remember in BTTF2 when Doc peeled off his "face"?

    Doc: "Forgive the disguise Marty, but I was afraid you wouldn't recognize me. I went to a rejuvenation clinic and got an all-natural overhaul. They took out a few wrinkles here and there, changed the blood, added a good thirty to forty years to my life. They also replaced my spleen and colon."

    Basically, this added to the time he spent in the 1880's after BTTF3 put Doc in his late 90's. Since First Citizen Brown didn't invent the time machine and travel to 2015 to get the same procedure, he would die sometime between his late 70's to 80's from natural causes. Now, had Doc and Marty remained in 1931, Doc would've started fading, but because they passed the point where young Emmett's life jumped the track he was destined for(ie. the Hill Valley Expo), Doc's fading happened almost instantaneously. This is basically what would've happened if Marty had failed in getting his parents back together but still got the DeLorean to travel back to 1985. It would've arrived in 1985 empty.

    As for Clara, Jules, and Verne, they're presumably back in the 19th century or whenever Doc decided to settle. After the incident that caused Doc to disappear, it's almost guaranteed that they've been erased from existence as well. This is supported by the mention of Clayton Ravine. Now, since the time machine Marty's using is a temporal duplicate and not subject to the same rules as the original(ie. not dependent on Doc inventing it by 1985) it remained intact, along with Marty and Doc's trips to 1931, hence why everyone remembers Carl Sagan. Presumably, Clara, Jules, and Verne will return once Marty guarantees Emmett's destiny and Doc returns.

    Hope this clears up some questions for you! :D

  • wow. thanks for all the help guys!

    maybe i skipped over it, but i wish the game would have explained this better.

    moreso- i wish the game was more like "choose your own adventure"- i'd like to see what happens when the 2 docs (or emmett and doc) see each other and the world explodes =)

  • @shockme17 said: wow. thanks for all the help guys!

    maybe i skipped over it, but i wish the game would have explained this better.

    moreso- i wish the game was more like "choose your own adventure"- i'd like to see what happens when the 2 docs (or emmett and doc) see each other and the world explodes =)

    The explanation is in Episode 1, when you talk to "Old Doc" sitting in jail back in 1931. Somewhere in one of the dialog options, there's a line about the time machine being a temporal duplicate.

    The rest of the information regarding how many "Doc's" exist, you just need to watch the trilogy of movies :)

  • The other Marty in the FCB timeline is at Math Camp, basically. Because he's such a square.

  • @darkthunder said: The explanation is in Episode 1, when you talk to "Old Doc" sitting in jail back in 1931. Somewhere in one of the dialog options, there's a line about the time machine being a temporal duplicate.

    The rest of the information regarding how many "Doc's" exist, you just need to watch the trilogy of movies :)

    IT was never revealed if Doc got duplicated with the time machine.

  • @Michael J Fox is Canadian said: IT was never revealed if Doc got duplicated with the time machine.

    Yeah, I'm hoping we find out something about that in the final episode.

  • There is no alternate Marty. I don't get how people can't get this.

    The series has stated numerous times that if you go back to the past and change something, therby transforming your world into an alternate one there is no alternate version of you. You are the only version of you, and you have all your memories before you changed things. Otherwise Marty would have had an alternate version of himself waiting for him when he came back to the present in the first movie.

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