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Video Game Console/Platform Discussion

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I'd like to talk about video game consoles/platforms and why having one is preferable to having another.



My wife and I recently bought a Wii. Up until now, I did not have a 7th generation (current gen) console. My thoughts were that the Wii's games were often too "casual"; and the 360 suffers from rampant hardware failure, scratches discs if moved while a disc is inserted, and costs an extra ~$100/yr for access to xBox Live. This left me with the PS3, which doubles as a Bluray player, but spending over $300 on a console was still a bit much of a barrier to entry. So, for a time I just let the whole issue be, especially after having discovered Steam.

What got me thinking about it again was that I was given some money from family for my birthday, and my wife brought subject up. Now, I've recently played on a 360 that has a Kinect, and though I think it's great I just don't have the proper amount of room allocated at my place for it to function properly, not to mention the whole set of 360+Kinect is expensive. However, the issue of the PS3 seems to have answered itself for the near future since the Playstation Network has been hacked more than once in recent days. I just don't feel secure going near it until Sony can cover themselves and fix the issues at hand.

In comes the Wii to my mind. It's fairly cheap, it has Zelda, Metroid, Mario and Virtual Console; and I can install ScummVM on it and play LucasArts games on my TV. So, I bought it. Mine is black.

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  • Ps3 Got hacked, but sony were very good about it, if xbox had got hacked microsoft would of proberly charged everyone £300 before returning xbox live, and wii is a ok console but only good for wii fit and stuff and its horrid to think of the call of duty series on it, dont get me started on computers.

    PS3 is the best of them all. sure you have to pay more but you get free network so it ends up cheaper than xbox.

    I suppose im biased because i hate xbox but they have always caused more trouble than they are worth, just get a play station because they last longer and have better graphics.

  • I have discovered that there are plenty of good games available on 360/PS3 that are also available on from Steam or similar, and since I already have a decent computer to play such games my reasoning for buying a PS3 has lessened.

    Case in point: I have recently bought Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 1&2, Bioshock 1&2 and Portal on Steam.

  • Apple mac is better than computers but i hate computer gaming, my main reason is people pay the same amount (sometimes rip off amounts) and one person will get fair graphics whilse someone who has a slightley older computer will have terrible graphics, i dont find that fair at all which is why i prefer consoles, besides thats why they call them Game consoles, computers are ment more for the internet or printing stuff whilse game consoles are ment for gaming and a maybe the odd video or song.

  • @yoman45135 said: Apple mac is better than computers but i hate computer gaming [...] computers are ment more for the internet or printing stuff whilse game consoles are ment for gaming and a maybe the odd video or song.

    Concerning Mac and gaming Gus Sorola disagrees with you. Oh, and also this.

    And as far as PCs only being for browsing the net and for the "odd video or song," my 13.4GB of legally-bought music and my ability to play recently developed games at a good graphics setting on a PC that I built 2 years ago for only ~$400 disagrees with you

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    I've decided to skip the present console generation. I wasn't expecting this to be a 10-year sabbatical, but so be it. I owned a C128 and an Amiga (both something like consoles, come to speak of it), an NES and an original Game Boy. I owned a PS1 and a PS2 and had great fun with the first. But the PS2 was already scarcely used, mainly to play Final Fantasy games on it, parts I did not like and later sold (X, X-2, XII).

    I'm not sure if I'll go back to console gaming anytime soon. The former advantages of consoles slowly seem to vanish as these platforms "evolve". In "my console times", there were no patches needed for games (and they could not have been applied), no operating system to be configured, no DLC to be paid in "points", no senseless "achievements" to be reached. I liked those times better...

  • I own all three 'next gen' consoles, and honestly, I find myself preferring the PS3 over the 360. That's entirely down to personal preference - I massively prefer the PS controller over the XBox ones - but there's also a lot to recommend.

    For a start, although the PS3 is more expensive to purchase, it's completely free to play online. You don't need to pay a single penny to do so, which (if you're an online gamer) is a massive positive. By comparison, you need an XBox Live Gold account, which costs around £35 a year (that's about $45-50 these days, I believe), which isn't something they tend to mention. So when comparing initial costs, the difference between the two consoles isn't as much as people would have you believe.

    Secondly, there's Playstation Plus. This is completely optional and is utterly unnecessary, but when you consider that it costs as much as a Gold XBox account and you get so much with it, it's hard to argue against it. I've already got Stacking, Sonic 1 + 2 and Magician Lords for absolutely nothing, and there's some great discounts on other games (though I mostly get PS1 games). There's also free themes (I got the Sega one and I've been in love with it ever since) and the chance to download full games to play for a limited time, complete with the option of keeping any trophies you might earn during the trial period.

    Next, there's the fact that it's not just a games machine, it's also a Blu-Ray player. This may not sound like much, but when you realise that DVDs rarely seem to get any bonus features these days (they get put on Blu-Rays now, which is annoying!), it's definitely a plus. Also, and you won't get anyone from Sony admitting this, but you can play copied/custom-made DVDs on the PS3 Slim (Don't ask how I discovered this). Which is just awesome.

    There's also the backwards compatibility. The PS3 Slim doesn't do PS2 games, but the original PS3 Fat still does, and they're not much more expensive than the newer models. Plus, both models still play PS1 games, so if you happen to have any lying around, then you don't need to dig your old PSX console out, which is nice.

    Finally, and I know this is really petty, but the console itself looks kewl. Especially compared to the 360Slim, which... well, doesn't.

    So that's my opinion. But on the flip side, the Wii is also pretty good. There's a lot of great games for it (even if a fair few of them seem to be getting ported to the PSMove - oh wait, that's another positive for the PS3! Woo!), even if you do have to sift through some tat to get to them. I could list off all the great games I've got for the system if you'd like.

    Animal Crossing: City Folk, Conduit 1 + 2, Donkey Kong Country Returns, Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (and sequels), Mario Kart Wii, Metroid Prime Trilogy (or, more specifically, MP3), Mushroom Men: The Spore Wars, No More Heroes 1 + 2 (1's getting a PSMove port, but the sequel's not... yet), Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands (different from the other versions!), Red Steel 2 (the prequel, not so much) Sonic Unleashed (the WiiS2 version's better), Sonic Colours, Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2, Super Paper Mario, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, Wario Land: Shake It!, Wario Ware: Minigame Mania + Smooth Moves, Zack and Wiki, Zelda: Twilight Princess (technically a port, but meh)

    And there's plenty I don't own. So yeah, loads of great games, even if the multiplayer is nowhere near as good as the other systems.

    But again, my opinion. PS3 and Wii. Thumbs up. The 360 has its good points as well - the Arcade is a great place for small but brilliant games, and the multiplayer, while pricey, is also great fun. So I'm not saying it sucks. Not at all. If it did, I wouldn't have bought it. I'm just saying I prefer my PS3.

  • @Chyron8472 said: Concerning Mac and gaming Gus Sorola disagrees with you. Oh, and also this.

    And as far as PCs only being for browsing the net and for the "odd video or song," my 13.4GB of legally-bought music and my ability to play recently developed games at a good graphics setting on a PC that I built 2 years ago for only ~$400 disagrees with you

    I disagree with the Mac sentiment. This was very true once upon a time, but recently with the increased number of games for Mac and the fact that now Macs can dual-boot as both Macs and PCs means a Mac gamer is no longer as limited as previously. I know since I own a Mac and have been able to run most of the games that I want to on it. The only problem I've had so far is my graphics card, which is too old now, but that is more related to the fact that I have a laptop than the fact that I have a Mac.

    Having said that, I totally agree with the PC sentiment. A good powerful PC can last quite some time and, if it's properly maintained, won't need to be replaced every few years either. My PC (primary gaming computer) has lasted about seven years right now playing everything I've wanted and the only real maintenance I've done is get a new graphics card. Though, I do plan to rebuild it this summer since the rest of the hardware is beginning to wear out.

  • @yoman45135 said: Apple mac is better than computers but i hate computer gaming, my main reason is people pay the same amount (sometimes rip off amounts) and one person will get fair graphics whilse someone who has a slightley older computer will have terrible graphics, i dont find that fair at all which is why i prefer consoles, besides thats why they call them Game consoles, computers are ment more for the internet or printing stuff whilse game consoles are ment for gaming and a maybe the odd video or song.

    Err, what? That's on the consumer. If you buy a PC for gaming, you should ALWAYS build your own. And if you build your own, then what you pay and what you can run on it is up to you. My machine was $400, and it's much more powerful than all three of the current consoles.

    And if something goes wrong with my console, I'm screwed unless I can afford the repair fee. If something goes wrong with my PC, I might still be screwed, but I can usually fix the problem myself for a very small amount of money, or even no money at all.

    Moreover, "computers are meant for the internet and printing stuff" is perhaps the most bizarre claim I've ever heard. For one, why do you think current consoles are striving to become media centers? Because PCs set the pace for each generation of consoles. At this point, consoles are nothing more than extremely user-friendly (yet heavily gimped) PCs.

    For another, if a computer is capable of doing something, then that is what it is meant for. The user owns the machine, not the other way around.

    Also, what were computers for before "the internet and printing stuff", if that's all they are meant for now? Even today, there are plenty of computers without the internet or a printer. Would you call those machines useless?

    On the subject of games, where do you think games come from (yes, even console games)? The very machines that "aren't meant for games".

    Final point, because I could go on for eight more paragraphs and not even touch on everything... most of the games that have shaped the industry into what it is today were PC games. Do yourself a favor and look into the history of your hobby. Namely, the early 90s. Look at the games that kickstarted most of the genres you see today, then look at what platform they were for: PC. In fact, this forum you're on? The one about an adventure game developer? It wouldn't exist without PC gaming. There'd have been no Sam & Max, Monkey Island, or point and click adventures in general. No small feat for a machine that "isn't meant for games".

    tl;dr version: lolwut

    (this is not meant to disparage consoles in any way. I love consoles just like I love PC.)

  • [QUOTE=ShaggE;509816]Err, what? That's on the consumer. If you buy a PC for gaming, you should ALWAYS build your own. And if you build your own, then what you pay and what you can run on it is up to you. My machine was $400, and it's much more powerful than all three of the current consoles.
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    Lol serouisly 400 just to play a crappy game, when you can play nearly every game on a console for a lot cheaper... and you get better quality.

  • All of the platforms have merit, but in the end I settled on the 360.
    The Wii didn't do it for me. Its the lack of good games, especially downloadable stuff, and fiddly controls and interfaces that put me off it.
    The PS3 didn't click either. The games in the beginning were a little bit more expensive than 360 titles here in the UK, (its evened out now), and the online content was indeed lacking (though checking the store again today, it does seem to be fairly on par with the 360 now), plus I was never really a fan of the Playstation controller (it gives me cramps. I have pretty big hands you see, and all the buttons squished together was a pain. the weird triggers on the first gen PS3 controllers were really stupid as well)
    I settled with the 360. I have a gold membership, and though I don't really go online that much, I do like the fact that its there, plus I buy A LOT of stuff via gold member offers. Seriously I have about 51 arcade titles, and a fair bit of DLC, the membership has had its uses.
    The interface was just better, and still is better. The PS3 menu is a bit packed in, and isn't all that attractive to me.
    Plus my best friend loves the 360 as well.
    And though I don't play with him too often, when we do its a real blast.


    We use the PS3 as a Blueray/DVD player more though (the only one who uses it as a console is my older brother, which is all fine and dandy as I don't want all his Call of Duty crap polluting my 360!).

    Oh and 360s are cheap to fix and replace.
    The main one (the original) sits proudly in the living room. The spare (not actually my one, but one my friend gave me as I was planning to live away, but ended up staying home) is upstairs in my older bros room as a backup (plus he doesn't have a DVD player up there)
    There's one currently sitting next to the fridge. Unused. (unsold...)
    There's one up in the loft in bits (as my dad run out of stuff to fix it).

    You can get a broken xbox 360 for like £20-40 these days, and if its a red ringer, fix it for about £10.

    Heck, even the new slim model isn't that expensive.

    (Guess the PS3 is sort of the same price for a first buy these days, but isn't as cheap to fix and replace though)

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