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Why is the Steam game £4 more then PSN/XBLA?

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Can someone explain this to me? why is the steam version of the walking dead (I paid £18.89 pre purchase) but on my PS3 its £15.99 for all episodes?

What does the steam version have that costs more?

TIA

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    @skidpro said: Can someone explain this to me? why is the steam version of the walking dead (I paid £18.89 pre purchase) but on my PS3 its £15.99 for all episodes?

    What does the steam version have that costs more?

    TIA

    Steam currency conversions are sometimes $1=£1 even when this isn't true. Hence Steam costs more.

  • @divisionten said: Steam currency conversions are sometimes $1=£1 even when this isn't true. Hence Steam costs more.

    No offence but what you say is false, and considering you're a mod I'd of expected you to do some research before handing out an explanation.. The Walking dead is £20.99 or $24.99 on Steam. £15.99 or $19.99 on PSN. Furthermore prices on Steam are set by the Publisher not Steam. I'm glad I didn't pre-order The Walking Dead as I'm not going to buy it until PC gamers have to pay the same price as console gamers for the same game.

  • @divisionten said: Steam currency conversions are sometimes $1=£1 even when this isn't true. Hence Steam costs more.

    your wrong here, its now £20.99 on staem or $24.99 on steam, so how did you figure that out?

    I feel a bit ripped off here, I have the consoles and imagine my surprise to find it for £15.99 on PSN and I paid pre purchase of £18.89 on steam now its £20.99 or $24.99 on Steam, what is the Steam version getting more content?

    I would have bought the console version TBH, this is blatant rip off for the PC gamer.....

  • @bit_crusherrr said: No offence but what you say is false, and considering you're a mod I'd of expected you to do some research before handing out an explanation.. The Walking dead is £20.99 or $24.99 on Steam. £15.99 or $19.99 on PSN. Furthermore prices on Steam are set by the Publisher not Steam. I'm glad I didn't pre-order The Walking Dead as I'm not going to buy it until PC gamers have to pay the same price as console gamers for the same game.

    Cut him some slack, divisionten seems like a nice guy and he's doing the best he can. He's not an employee, just an average joe like us! :D

    These different distribution arrangements can become difficult and are not that uncommon. I can think of several other programs or apps that have different prices in different digital stores. Items on my Nook Color are routinely more expensive than the same apps directly through the App store. And those apps are often different prices in iTunes. Though developers may be able to set the price on Steam, that doesn't account for the percentage of the sale Steam will take. Perhaps the difference in cost is related to the amount of money taken by Sony and taken by Steam with adjustments made so that Telltale receives the same amount on the back end.

    For that matter, it's not that much different than it's been for decades in retail stores. Some stores charge different prices for products that are physically identical. Do an experiment and see. The next time a Blu-Ray or CD comes out that you're interested in, do some comparative shopping. You'll see that the same physical CD can range in price, some sales are as low as $7-11 and some stores charge closer to MSRP at $18-20. And don't even get me started on digital versions. Amazon.com and Google Music frequently sell tracks at lower prices than iTunes. Amazon has frequently sold entire albums at $5 or less, and Google Music has been running a variety of specials lately around $3.99 albums. I've managed to collect around a dozen albums I love on various services for a total of less than $10 by taking advantage of these sorts of specials.

    Would you not agree that it would be silly to forsake buying music forever simply because different stores might charge different prices for the same CD? It seems as silly to me to forsake ordering a game you want to play simply because another platform has a different price. When it comes to money, cost and value everything is subjective. The cost of the PC game via Steam is $24.99, via Telltale it's $22.49 right now. Even on the PC the price of the game is inconsistent, just as it's been with every other form of media and every other platform. Holding out for some sort of unified pricing scheme just means you're going to miss out on some really great games and that would be a real shame.

    And heck, think of it this way, paying a few extra dollars for the PC version means you'll have a copy of the game that you can still play in ten years. After 10 years most of my older consoles won't even connect to my TV, but I have no problems firing up classic adventure games from decades prior. You're spending a few dollars to have some piece of mind that this game will be probably be easily playable years from now.

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    Ah- you're referring to the $5 difference between Steam and PS3 prices.

    Sorry about that- there are a number of people complaining about the difference between Steam and Telltale prices and that's due to currency exchange issues.

    As for why PS3 and Seam are priced differently? I can't help at all, unfortunately.

    As mentioned by another member, I'm a volunteer, not Telltale staff.

  • @jab1981 said: Cut him some slack, divisionten seems like a nice guy and he's doing the best he can. He's not an employee, just an average joe like us! :D

    These different distribution arrangements can become difficult and are not that uncommon. I can think of several other programs or apps that have different prices in different digital stores. Items on my Nook Color are routinely more expensive than the same apps directly through the App store. And those apps are often different prices in iTunes. Though developers may be able to set the price on Steam, that doesn't account for the percentage of the sale Steam will take. Perhaps the difference in cost is related to the amount of money taken by Sony and taken by Steam with adjustments made so that Telltale receives the same amount on the back end.

    For that matter, it's not that much different than it's been for decades in retail stores. Some stores charge different prices for products that are physically identical. Do an experiment and see. The next time a Blu-Ray or CD comes out that you're interested in, do some comparative shopping. You'll see that the same physical CD can range in price, some sales are as low as $7-11 and some stores charge closer to MSRP at $18-20. And don't even get me started on digital versions. Amazon.com and Google Music frequently sell tracks at lower prices than iTunes. Amazon has frequently sold entire albums at $5 or less, and Google Music has been running a variety of specials lately around $3.99 albums. I've managed to collect around a dozen albums I love on various services for a total of less than $10 by taking advantage of these sorts of specials.

    Would you not agree that it would be silly to forsake buying music forever simply because different stores might charge different prices for the same CD? It seems as silly to me to forsake ordering a game you want to play simply because another platform has a different price. When it comes to money, cost and value everything is subjective. The cost of the PC game via Steam is $24.99, via Telltale it's $22.49 right now. Even on the PC the price of the game is inconsistent, just as it's been with every other form of media and every other platform. Holding out for some sort of unified pricing scheme just means you're going to miss out on some really great games and that would be a real shame.

    And heck, think of it this way, paying a few extra dollars for the PC version means you'll have a copy of the game that you can still play in ten years. After 10 years most of my older consoles won't even connect to my TV, but I have no problems firing up classic adventure games from decades prior. You're spending a few dollars to have some piece of mind that this game will be probably be easily playable years from now.

    But prices on Steam and PSN are set by the Publisher. Prices in a shop are set by the shop itself. It's more like there being 2 GameStops next to each other, and each GameStop having a different set of prices.

  • @skidpro said: I would have bought the console version TBH, this is blatant rip off for the PC gamer.....

    Keep in mind, in a few months or more you'll likely see this game on sale on Steam. And if history is any indicator, you'll also likely see a sale on Telltale's own site. Right now I see an offer to get the Walking Dead, Sam and Max 1-3, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, Law and Order, Strong Bad, Hector & Puzzle Agent 1&2 all for $42.49. That's probably the farthest thing from ripping off the PC gamer outside of them giving away copies for free and if you follow Telltale you'll know they do that frequently too! Most of those games aren't even on the 360, some aren't even on the PS3. I don't even want to think about how much each of those cost on PSN!

    Just be careful and considerate about what you buy. If paying $2 more for a PC version is unthinkable and a terrible value to you, save that money and buy a PS3. Or just wait it out and pick it up when an inevitable sale comes along.

  • @bit_crusherrr said: But prices on Steam and PSN are set by the Publisher. Prices in a shop are set by the shop itself. It's more like there being 2 GameStops next to each other, and each GameStop having a different set of prices.

    I've been on Amazon and they occasionally have multiple listing of the same CD with the same tracklisting for different prices. This already happens, though less frequently and typically I believe these are mistakes. But it can and does happen.

    Again, though the publisher may set the price on PSN or on Steam (I don't know this is true, but I'll trust you) this does not take into account the percentage that's paid to each provider. I could not find any reliable information on what Steam takes as their cut, we have no way to know how these factors can play out. Say Steam takes a 30% cut and Sony takes a 20% cut. Should Telltale take a loss on that simply to provide some sort of universal price that doesn't exist? They'd have to alter most of iTunes as well since very few of their games are as cheap in iTunes as they are on the PC. Even further when you consider that there is a cost in developing games onto other platforms. Or that Telltale has some sort of arrangement with Sony, we've already seen a few of their titles up for free on PS Plus. There are literally a dozen different things that consumers like ourselves would have no way of knowing, and each of those could have dramatic impacts on cost. I wouldn't even be surprised if at least some of it was intentional to try and shift consumers towards consoles due to piracy. All of those issues paint a picture that Telltale is very aware of but we are very much not, and as such if Telltale is setting the price the way they are they probably have a very good reason for it.

    But that said, debating who sets what cost is irrelevant. The bigger point is that there is no precedent for expecting a company to charge the same price on every platform or for every device. I can think of very few examples where this is true. For example Wii games typically cost less than PS3 games, for the past several years a lot of modern PC games retailed for around $10 less than console releases. Mostly due to Sony and MS charging a $10 fee just to run on their platform, ironically now a lot of PC games are retailing for $60 on Steam. So now even though their cost is $10 less per title, they still charge that extra $10 because they can. This is hardly a new occurrence. The same product will cost differently depending on the store, the time of day, the method you pay, sales taxes, rewards programs. Telltale is one of few developers still actively supporting PCs and has offered so many spectacular deals and truck loads of free content that complaining about a few bucks just seems in poor taste. If we were talking about some huge corporation trying to milk consumers, I'm all in. But we're talking about a few bucks from a company that's really trying. I don't see any evidence of abuse, all I see is a what seems to be a great game at a great price.

  • @jab1981 said: I've been on Amazon and they occasionally have multiple listing of the same CD with the same tracklisting for different prices. This already happens, though less frequently and typically I believe these are mistakes. But it can and does happen.

    The different prices are because some people sell through Amazon. Not because Amazon thinks it's funny to put the same object up for multiple prices.

  • [QUOTE=jab1981;602168]Keep in mind, in a few months or more you'll likely see this game on sale on Steam. And if history is any indicator, you'll also likely see a sale on Telltale's own site. Right now I see an offer to get the Walking Dead, Sam and Max 1-3, Jurassic Park, Back to the Future, Law and Order, Strong Bad, Hector & Puzzle Agent 1&2 all for $42.49. That's probably the farthest thing from ripping off the PC gamer outside of them giving away copies for free and if you follow Telltale you'll know they do that frequently too! Most of those games aren't even on the 360, some aren't even on the PS3. I don't even want to think about how much each of those cost on PSN!
    QUOTE]
    look I dont wanna get into an argument but you have contradicted yourself here!

    most of the telltale game you mention are on PSN/XBLA anyways, and they do sales too!

    You say shops set prices so they can be different store to store...however, on a launch on a unified platform, whether its is x platform or not the PRICE should be same for PSN as XBLA as STEAM as I am not walking around from GAME to HMV to whoever etc etc as they are all on my PC (you can get the PSN purchase online PC with media go and download to your console, you can sign into Xbox.com and buy it and tell the web site to download to your console)

    They all do sales at some point...and most if not all the games you mention can be gotton off PSN/XBLA at reduced prices too and in bundles like telltale......

    NEW GAME...RRP:??????

    as they are all the digital downloads why is Steam up to £5 more then PSN or XBLA? and, can we have a TELLTALE staff answer the question please......

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