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Statement in regards to the dynamic between Lee and Larry.

posted by Kazal on - last edited - Viewed by 645 users

First off a “congratulations” is due to the team behind the game. I think they have a good thing started with the first episode. I wish them continued success and I cannot wait to enjoy the rest of the episodes.

I had question/statement of sorts for the team. I don’t expect/need/deserve a direct reply but it’s just something for them to think about. In the comic series one of the draws for me was the psychological and racial aspect the comic plays on. I enjoy art that does not shy away from racial questions or situations.

With that said I bought the game not expecting so much a racial aspect but I was certainly drawn to the physiological aspect and even more to the “choose your own adventure” model the team had deployed. I am thoroughly pleased. I physically smiled when as the game started I realized the main character is black. I could go on a tangent about how thrilled I am and how dismayed I am that I do not see it more often, but this is not a college paper so I will simply say “Thank you” for adding that bit of diversity.

In saying that, I was not at all surprised in seeing the interactions between Larry and Lee in which Larry calls Lee “boy” twice. (At least from the options I picked) I am not making a complaint, I completely understand it. I am curious of Lee’s reaction to that insult. As a man in his late 30’s highly educated and living in the south he should understand and have more of a reaction to such a term. I am curious why his reaction looks to be a mixed of hurt feelings and confusion. I am not expecting him to get violent and belligerent but I hope that he stands up for himself more in future episodes.

That’s it, that’s my “gripe” if one can call it that. Other than that I am well pleased with the product and I eagerly await future episodes. Thank you for reading.

What does the community think about this?

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  • I have thoughts on Larry for the Does anyone else hate larry thread but i'm hesitant to bring them up yet

  • I think Lee is smart enough to know that issue was probably not best to address at that moment... Maybe it will come up again..

    Lee and Larry are both alpha males and it will be interesting to see them struggle for leadership of the group.. Even if Lee doesn't want the title .. he will not let someone else do it if they are making horrible choices.

    There was a lot of subtle character development going on .. At least that is what I got from it.

  • @CapnJay said: I have thoughts on Larry for the Does anyone else hate larry thread but i'm hesitant to bring them up yet

    I would be excited to hear anyone's thoughts on the Larry & Lee dynamic.

    @CapnJay said: I think Lee is smart enough to know that issue was probably not best to address at that moment... Maybe it will come up again..

    Lee and Larry are both alpha males and it will be interesting to see them struggle for leadership of the group.. Even if Lee doesn't want the title .. he will not let someone else do it if they are making horrible choices.

    There was a lot of subtle character development going on .. At least that is what I got from it.

    Yeah that sounds about right. It's just that I really like the Lee character and I hope he stands up for himself, and does not get run over in such a classless way. But if I read the tea leaves in the preview for the second episode right I think Larry dies.

  • @Kazal said: I would be excited to hear anyone's thoughts on the Larry & Lee dynamic.


    Yeah that sounds about right. It's just that I really like the Lee character and I hope he stands up for himself, and does not get run over in such a classless way. But if I read the tea leaves in the preview for the second episode right I think Larry dies.

    Lee replies however the player wants him to. So if the option to stand up to Larry is present, then by all means, push it.

  • I'll post my opinion on Larry in his thread which i call my Adrenaline into the debate

  • I don't understand the original post, because Lee openly advocates murdering Larry in half of the dialogue choices. The premise of the post is that Larry doesn't have strong enough response options, that's clearly wrong

    Also not everyone of the same race has to react in the same way to sharp language.
    The choices need to be consistent with the characters mentality and nature.

  • @Im_The_Foreman said: I don't understand the original post, because Lee openly advocates murdering Larry in half of the dialogue choices. The premise of the post is that Larry doesn't have strong enough response options, that's clearly wrong

    Also not everyone of the same race has to react in the same way to sharp language.
    The choices need to be consistent with the characters mentality and nature.

    I'm sorry that I was not clear enough for you. In the start of the dialogue with Larry I know that he is advocating hurting or in your words "murdering" Larry. It seems though to be in reply to the protection of the group and not for any action or words aimed at Lee himself.

    I thought you said you didn’t understand my post? The premise was not that he did not have strong enough options to reply. It’s that he had no reply at all. To look hurt and confused (IMHO) was not a realistic response. I feel at this point I would be repeating myself from my first post. I think it’s best that a re read of my initial post to fully understand my feelings.

    His hard replies were not in defense of himself but in defense of the group. (from my play through) But again it was only a note and suggestion.
    It’s all MHO

    @Im_The_Foreman said: Lee replies however the player wants him to. So if the option to stand up to Larry is present, then by all means, push it.

    Noted. I would have picked harsher replies to Larry but for the situation in Lee standing up for himself, especially towards the end there were not many. I understand where you are coming from.

  • I didn't really see much reaction to the "boy" stuff by itself, but I can totally understand why that'd come off as pissy to a 30-something guy.


    It's a bit hard to put into words, so let me use an example: sometimes my boss calls me "boy." He's about 50, and I'm 21. It's not like either of us gave it any thought, yet the unspoken assumption is that he's older (and therefore wiser, i guess?), and so it's a very casual thing. Nothing's really being implied, it's just a way to address me.
    HOWEVER, if a late-twenties person called me that, my instant reaction would be getting pissed at them. It's condescending coming from a person from the same general age-group.
    Lee's middle aged; old enough for that to be weird from anybody, except maybe a really elderly person. Like, 90.


    It's a lot like one woman calling the other "sweetie" or "honey". There's like a list of unwritten rules everybody follows, even if nobody actually consciously thinks about it. Larry's being a passive-aggressive baby.


    (by the way: i don't think lee's wife was raped? remember that bit at the beginning about marrying the wrong woman? that'd be some major-league victim blaming)

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