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posted by Imapus Sylicker on - last edited - Viewed by 643 users

I know it may be a bit late in the season for this, but I'd like to fully express my extreme discontent at the celebutard jokes that have been running rampant in the second series of Sam & Max.

I mean, the target customer of these games is the geek that will keep playing the thing for years and years and years. Decades, even. I'm willing to bet everyone here has played and WILL play Hit the Road again.

Not to mention Monkey Island.

Just think: How funny will Paris Hilton jokes be in ten years? Not too funny, I can guarantee that. Plus, she probably won't be alive in ten years, which makes it even more gruesome. Paris who?

Cheers!

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  • Decades? Gosh...gee... :)

    *Ahem* It would take a lot for Sam & Max to get dated. Still, though, Sam & Max is written in a way that cultural jokes, if missed, are just accepted as normal remarks. The remaining jokes compensate without problem. :D

  • I agree with what he's saying though. If you're gonna make pop-culture references, make them to things that will last as long as Sam & Max will. For example in HTR, the Star Wars reference was A-O-K with me. Everyone gets it.

    The thing about Sam & Max humor that i like is that it is accessible, but only accessible if you choose to think about it for long enough to WANT to understand it. A humor you have to work for, so to speak.

    And of course that it's delivered deadpan.

  • @Imapus Sylicker said: I'm willing to bet everyone here has played and WILL play Hit the Road again.

    I've never played Hit the Road, I would play it but I don't know if I'll like it or not.

  • @mish said: You'll like it.


    I don't know, it's not in 3D...

    About the celebrity jokes, I tend to agree with the idea that less is more, but I was more bummed about the reference to MySpace and YouTube in one of the previous episodes. With the speed that the global economy (and technology!) moves at, those companies might not even exist anymore in, say, 5 or 10 years. I think you need to be careful that you don't make too many references that nobody gets, but I don't think Telltale have overstepped that line. As has been said, if you don't get a reference, you can just regard it as a general, still funny, remark - and with the availability of the Internet, you can always look it up and learn something new in the process. :)

  • I dunno...I think it would be pretty funny replaying the game in 10 years and coming across, say, a Paris Hilton joke, and thinking back, "Oh man! I remember back then when Paris Hilton got so much media when she shouldn't have!"

  • @RyanMon said: I dunno...I think it would be pretty funny replaying the game in 10 years and coming across, say, a Paris Hilton joke, and thinking back, "Oh man! I remember back then when Paris Hilton got so much media when she shouldn't have!"


    Well, then we also need to get a Jack Thompson joke, or has there already been one?

  • I'm pretty sure there's been a few.

  • This thread is pretty interesting (and funny), because after Abe Lincoln Must Die! came out, there was a comment on a different message board saying that the references all seemed dated and stuck in the 90s. And my response at the time was the same as the OP: we could've made more topical references, but then in 10 years you'd have people asking, "Who's Karl Rove?"

    Different people in the company are going to have different opinions about this (not to mention the fans), but my opinion is that I want to make sure these are still funny if you play them 5 or 10 years later, but still take advantage of the fact that they're episodic games. We don't have to wait a year and a half for the game to get released, so we have some room to be a little more topical, and don't feel like you're playing some game that's stuck in 1993.

    The problem is figuring what's so ephemeral that it's already going to be dated between the time it's written and it actually gets released. So no "Chocolate Rain" references, or Lolcats, or mentions of that ass Jack Thompson, sorry. And it looks like myspace is already on the way out (good riddance!) but I'd be very, very surprised if there's not the equivalent of YouTube 5 or 10 years from now.

    I think if somebody's playing Season Two ten years from now, and wonders who Paris Hilton is, that'll be a good problem to have. It'll mean the games did have staying power, and that one line out of around 10,000 feels a little dated.

  • i completely agree with chuck the topical references are a good idea as well as general ones, like for example old sitcoms with similar styled references are often still brilliant and people still get the jokes

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