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Something else I just noticed in episode 5

posted by Robert Morgan on - last edited - Viewed by 1.9K users

In the video below, a fan speculates Kenny was knocked out by the Stranger and locked away in a "secret room" the game mysteriously forbids you from entering.

At first I thought this was unlikely, since the Stranger had even more reason to kill Kenny than Lee, and would probably just murder him outright instead of knocking him unconscious, but there's further evidence to support this theory: When Lee first arrives at the Stranger's room and puts his ear to the door, you can just make out the very distinct sound of something being dragged across the floor, possibly a body. Could that have been the Stranger dragging Kenny into the other room?

Did Kenny survive? Will he be the protagonist of season 2? Guess we'll know for certain before the month's over...

  • Wow. That's interesting. I'll watch the vid later. I was wondering about that.

  • Yeah i was wondering that too, but i never looked into it. I would like to see that happen. Jesus i was so caught in the moment i forgot there was a dragging noise when you listen. The stranger comes out that room straight after.

  • When you enter the room The Stranger tells Lee "I got us adjoining rooms". He could be referring to Clementine's room. However, Clementine seems puzzled by this door as well after saving her. If Lee tries to open it Clementine will re-direct to the exit. And when they leave the room Lee forgets Clementine's walkie-talkie in the room.

    There is something up with that door. They even focused on the walkie-talkie before switching scene. Maybe the individual locked in that room will find the walkie-talkie and return it to Clementine. It can be anyone locked in the room, but it have to be someone who already know Clementine for him to bring the walkie-talkie back to her. It could be Kenny, Molly or Omid and/or Christa. Perhaps Molly witnessed what happend to Kenny, and when Lee got separated from Omid and Christa Molly went in and tried to rescue Clementine by herself, but got captured. So many possibilities.

    God I can't stand the excitement.

  • I did always find it weird that you could not go into that door, I am not jumping to it has to be Kenny, and this is coming from someone who wants Kenny to be alive so badly, but it is one of the most interesting theory's set forth.

  • Kenny will not be a protagonist... -_- ugh..

    • I know this forum has a sizeable "F*** Kenny" crowd, but I'm really having a hard time getting behind the idea of an entirely new PC. The notion of basically starting over from scratch (so to speak) just makes me feel tired, to be honest.I'd rather play as SOMEBODY who has emotional connections with season one, and besides Clementine, Kenny is the only other character who's been a part of the series since day one.

      (I'm not excluding Molly and Christa/Omid, I just think Clem or Kenny make the most sense from a narrative perspective, IMO.)

      • It honestly wont be a character you've met. They HAVE set personalities. Kenny isnt going from a "FUCK LEE AND EVERYTHING HE DOES UNLESS HE PERFECTLY SIDES WITH ME 100% AND EVERYONE LOVES ME FOR SOME REASON" personality to "I'm with anything the person controlling me does" We'll most likely be a 400 days protogonist or a completely new protagonist. I dont see why everyone is getting angry at me for stating the obvious. If we DO play as kenny, I wont be continuing the series as Telltale has sacrificed good writing just to please some minority of fans.

        • Dude, I'm not getting angry. I'm just pointing out my own reasons for thinking Kenny would be a possible candidate. For the record, I'd be completely content with playing as a 400 DAYS character (Shelly and Bonnie being my two faves), as long as their story arcs tie significantly into season one's.

          You should also give a little more credit for how much a traumatic near-death experience can change a person. The zombie attack in the alley/building would arguably be the closest Kenny has ever come to dying in the entire series thus far, assuming he survived. The incident could basically "reboot" Kenny's personality to the point where he'd more more malleable as a PC. Whether he continues being the vindictive douche we all know from season 1, or a man who genuinely cares for the safety of others, is entirely up to the player.

          • Kenny's sacrifice was meant to be one of the emotional points of Episode 5. Why do people want that ruined so much? If Kenny survives. I want Lee back after him growing a sudden burst of strength, finding the cure to the zombie virus and using it and then growing a new hand killing everyone in sight instantly.

            see how ridlclous that sounds? that's how ridiculous all these kenny fanboys sound. They want to sacrifice good writing for their favourite character. and as I say. if Telltale takes that route. I'm sticking to TWAU

            • well they could keep kenny alive without a limb. anyway at some point you would want to inspire hope in a chaos of despair. otherwise the story gets boring fast. you would want to keep your readers(or gamers/ viewers) interested in the story. if all it appears to be is just mindless death and despair people will stop reading and move on to something else. take hurshel from the tv show they had him planed to die that whole season then changed there mind because they needed to write in and emotional prospect to what was going to happen later. if they found some random guy to do that it would seem unrealistic and thus people would stop watching. thats why writers sometimes never explicitly say someone dies in there story just in the off chance they may need to use them again to help tie in the story better.

              • True. Hope is a part of what keeps you watching. Only reason I kept watching Season 2 of the TV show was to see if sophia was okay. What a mistake THAT was. Anyway. the TV show for me is just really bland and another soap opera. I saw people saying season 4 revealed what the virus was.. or something and the walkers are mutating? ..yeah. not watching that. lol. but again. the GOOD walking dead (Comic and game) are always hopeless situations. YOU will die. it's just a question of when. I'm just saying the writing and stuff was made for kenny to sacrifice himself no point dragging it out to make him impossibley survive.

                • There are a few exceptions of that you WILL DIE. Yes, everyone would die, Rick himself will die like Kirkman says, but there have to be a story. Don't you read the comic, when Tyreese was locked in a room full of walkers, and everybody thought that he died but, he didn't die!, and he killed all the zombies. Kenny was supposed to die, but tt just delete the scene why? maybe cause he'll still alive... or not. Anyway tt said that we'll know the fate of kenny in S2 so, everything it's possible. PD: Sorry if my writing was lame, but that's 'cause I'm from Chile (SouthAmerica) :)

            • Kenny's sacrifice was meant to be one of the emotional points of Episode 5. Why do people want that ruined so much? If Kenny survives. I want Lee back after him growing a sudden burst of strength, finding the cure to the zombie virus and using it and then growing a new hand killing everyone in sight instantly.

              see how ridlclous that sounds? that's how ridiculous all these kenny fanboys sound. They want to sacrifice good writing for their favourite character. and as I say. if Telltale takes that route. I'm sticking to TWAU

              Okay, now who's getting angry for no reason? Seriously though, this is what your argument sounds like to me:

              "I think there's a chance Kenny could be alive - " "Oh really? I suppose you believe in pots of gold at the end of the rainbow and unicorns dancing through rolling meadows of beautiful grass too?"

              It has to be one extreme or the other, with absolutely no middle ground permitted.This is exactly the kind of OTT cynicism that turned me off the comic book and tv show.

              Now, in regards to Kenny's return "ruining" Kenny's big moment in episode 5: Why should that be an inevitable result? If Telltale hadn't left Kenny's fate on an ambiguous note, than yes, I could see where you're coming from. But until we see Kenny as a corpse, a walker, or a living human being, an outcome where Kenny might have survived shouldn't be ridiculed, no matter how much you personally think it should. On the other hand, if Lee were to make the kind of miraculous resurrection you described, that would absolutely wreck the credibility of the franchise, because he was very clearly bitten by a zombie and shot in the head (or left to die, whatever the case may be). But the question of Kenny's survival is still up for grabs, and you don't have any legitimate right to view it as "ridiculous" until Telltale finally supplies a definitive answer.

        • people tend to change after personal strife. someone would go through an assortment of emotions until they finally accept what has happened to them. we never got to see what he would be like when he accepted what has happened to him so its possible he could be a completely different person afterward. he wouldn't be for first person to change after something awful happens happens to them. most tern bad others tend to stay depressed for a long time. few people will stride on forward to try and create a better future.

  • Stranger would drag Kenny through streets full of walkers and put him into secret room? Seriously?

    • kenny would not know who it is that help save him so he wouldn't immediately think that the guy who helped him out is the same guy that took clem. its easier to trick someone into walking into a quite place away from the walkers than it is to drag them.

    • Remember the Station Wagon outside the hotel? He could just have found Kenny unconscious, or rescued Kenny only to knock him out and put him in the trunk and ride back to the hotel where Clementine is locked in.

  • I do not believe Kenny will be alive in Season 2, there's no way he could have outran/killed all the walkers depending on the choices you choose, in Season 2 we will eventually come back to Savannah and find him as a walker or dead.

    • Probably. I'm just wondering why Clementine and the protagonist would return to Savannah after what she had to experience there. If it is Omid & Christa she see in the cliffhanger they won't return to any city, as Christa suggested staying in the countryside.

      • Assuming the 400 days characters haven't traveled to Savannah yet maybe Clem told them about Crawford, Lee, etc. And thought it would be best for the group to travel there together in order to scavenge supplies as I'm pretty sure they won't depend on Tavia for long, and I also believe there is some fishy stuff going on with Tavia's group, I don't exactly know what but I can sense it.

        • Remember what Christa said. They have been surviving because of their small number. Form a big group and return to Savannah is going to result in another massacre. And I think Clementine is fully against returning after what she saw with her parents and Lee etc.

  • Seldom do I give extreme props but whatever this is wow...

    I went back through to watch the walkthrough and sure enough you can hear dragging... Also the wood is worn on the floor near that door.

    I'll be darned I figured Special K as a gonner but who knows now.

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