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  • Yeah, I originally defended the idea of nudity as your going to be talking to strippers, but you didn't really have much dialog with the one you did talk to, and she wasn't even nude at the time. They easily could have had her poke her head out at the same time she would normally leave the set and have exactly the same scene, but without the nudity. Especially if this contributed to the delay I would have liked this to be taken out.

  • Well they are going to make Game of thrones which includes sex and nudity i think they need to start from somewhere.

  • This isn't exactly a novel observation, but I never get over how freaking weird it is that showing a woman's severed head is considered less "adult" than showing her breasts.

    • This. What's up with US way of thinking...

      • In my opinion, it's a remnant of Puritanism. The United States has never fully recovered from that period in our history. That's not say we're huge prudes, there's tons of gratuitous nudity in our media, which is not always a good thing (when it objectifies or degrades a person). However, there is more of a taboo on nudity, especially in forms of media which are meant to appeal to the general public.

        As an American, I have no problem with it. Gratuitous nudity isn't really my thing (not that I thought TWAU's use of it was gratuitous, I didn't), but it doesn't make me stop watching a show and I believe it's the creators' right to show what they like. If someone doesn't like it, they don't have to watch. I love "Game of Thrones" and "True Blood and both have TONS of unnecessary nudity. I may roll my eyes a bit, but I also understand that it's a show for adults and it's HBO, so gratuitous nudity is very likely. I think if you want to understand America's reaction to nudity, you have to look to our history. We are still a very Christian nation with a puritanical history and because of that, many Americans try to shield the general public (including the elderly and children) from gratuitous nudity. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing (it becomes bad when censorship is involved), what I think is bad is the hypocrisy. We have a sex-addled entertainment industry, yet you'll hear complaints over very minor nudity, like in TWAU.

        We should just keep things in perspective I think. Seeing breasts is not the same as watching hard-core pornography. The human body is not pornographic, it is a natural thing. Some people lose sight of that I think. I think the rating system is great because it allows people to know what they're getting into. It protects games like Grand Theft Auto from being banned by overprotective parents who allow their children to play violent games meant for adults. It's a great compromise, in my opinion.

    • In this case that isn't the point, its just that the nudity was gracious, which many other tv shows and games get flamed for. I honestly think it was a silly move on telltales part to include them just for the sake of them, especially if the theories about part of the delay being caused by it are true. I think it is funny how violence is much more acceptable than nudity though, its just that in this particular instance the violence makes sense while the nudity was just sort of...there.

  • Meh, it makes sense in the scene. Not that big of a problem with me.

  • There was nudity in a strip club?!

    I'm shocked.

    • I guess I'll reiterate my other points lol. Everything in a story like this should have a point. The violence for example, has a point. It is used to show conflict between characters, to heighten tension, build suspects and actual get the storyline going. The nudity was used for.....ummm...hmmm...I think you get the point lol. I have no trouble with seeing nudity, but I prefer it to have a reason, exactly the same reason why I dislike several of the action scenes in TWAU, such as the grendal fight in the bar, it didn't really add much to the plot. Its not like I'm rallying against nudity in general, I just think it should serve a purpose. As soon as it stops serving a purpose, you can easily add other stuff in. I remember people asking for romance between Carly and Lee in the walking dead. Although quite possible within the walking dead universe, it wouldn't serve much of a point other than maybe to make the scene where she a dies a little sadder, but even then that scene is more for the shock, so I don't know how well it would work. None the less, I think I've gotten my point across, I need to stop typing lol :D.

      Also(to anyone), if you want to thumb this comment down feel free too, but please post a response, I like discussions, not needless downvoting ok? :)

      • "Also(to anyone), if you want to thumb this comment down feel free too, but please post a response, I like discussions, not needless downvoting ok? :)"

        I don't agree with you but thumbed up just for this :D

        It's a strip club. They're prostitutes. It would have been weirder to see them fully dressed. Also, I may have less taboos than most people, but I don't find a human body "offensive" or "schocking" in any way, and I don't understand the need to censor a pair of breast - we all know how they look, every woman has them, including our mothers - over a severed head or a torn arm.

        • Lol, thanks :).

          Seeing them fully dressed would have been rather amusing, agree with you there. Censoring also would have been pointless for the reasons you provided, if they're there then just show them, we know what they look like anyway. However, I just don't see why it was needed. It's not really that big a deal or anything, I just wish they would have used their ability to show nude characters by having it be important, not just show us an animated strip sequence(which is all the nudity is used for). They could have easily just have the character peek their head out of the doorway they leave through, and have the same dialog at the end lol.

          An actual case against the nudity is this: Lots of people theorize about the delay being because of the nudity, if this is the case then it was definitely pointless putting it in there. It also is a rather awkward moment for most people. I know I have no trouble playing this game with other people I know as we all understand that nudity is fine, but for the majority of people it can put them off a game, especially when its just gracious. I don't see why TellTale would alienate those people just for the sake of some nudity that doesn't add to the plot or story one bit.

          In the end I guess it doesn't matter, but too lots of people it does, and TellTale definitely will loose some sales and fans because of this.

          • I think people who have problems with partial nudity should either: Stop lying about their age and put the mouse back into the house. Play games appropriate to their age group. Or just start to think if games that depict you actually performing headshots and beheadings aren't ultimately more revolting.

            I play both kinds of games. I found the scene very fitting because the nudity made her look even more uncomfortable. Look at some of the late 90ies French detective adventure games. There was lots of nudity there and it didn't alienate their customers. It was part of the stories.

            Or is this really some US thing? ;) I think in the EU we can live with breasts. All I thought was: "Nicely done..." - because I'm male and I like breasts - then took in her whole composure and saw the point they were making.

            • Its definitely not a US thing btw, I'm Australian :). I wish people would grow up about nudity though, then there wouldn't need to be these threads lol. I have come to understand at least one reason why the nudity was done, so I guess it should be fine. Hopefully this answers the OPs question, that it was to make her look more uncomfortable and vulnerable.

              All I thought was: "Nicely done..." - because I'm male and I like breasts - then took in her whole composure and saw the point they were making.

              Hehe...8), but I see your point, and am beginning to agree with some of the arguments presented. This is probably one of the most rational arguments on here lol, thanks :)

              • With all due respect to my Australian friend, you guys have the weirdest censor rules/laws and . Though seriously, it is as mentioned a strip club, Georgie is insulting her for not being good enough, which lets be honest builds up the tension for the follow up conversation, so in your terms it is then okay.

                • In my rules, as long as it serves a purpose then its fine. If it doesn't, then it is pointless. Previously I thought it was just there to be...there, but some other people proved me wrong and therefor I changed my opinion as my argument was invalid :).

          • So, you have seen two severed heads,you witness a woman being beaten but only after you see naked stripper you think: "This is totally inappropriate, TTG, I'm not playing your game anymore". I really can't imagine a person who would think that.

      • So according to you the violence has a point, but the nudity doesn't? I propose that what little nudity there was served just as much purpose for establishing Georgie's character and setting the tone of the location as a seedy strip club.

        The exploitation of Nerissa was more repellant with the nudity than without. She is allowed no protection or modesty on the stage and is directly exposed to ridicule and abuse. It's not meant to be titillating.

      • I dont think everything needs to have a point. Some things just ARE, like nudity in a strip club. Its setting the scene.

  • It is a strip club. In a strip club I think breasts kind of go with the surroundings. You could as well ask yourself if that scene with Beast made any sense. Or the one with Bluebeard. "Lets add some mandatory fights..." You say the violence has a point because it shows conflict. Think of who the little mermaid is in the original tale. Every step she takes hurts her like walking on glass. To make her a pole dancer shows another aspect of this whole story and one that they emphasize more in the Game than even in the comic series. Loss. Loss of basically everything. Just like with Faith, but literally taken "one step further". I actually like it because it was down-tuned in the Fables series. The focus almost always was on the Fables living in the Westwood. The side characters mostly appeared as protesters on the street.

    Also, no. I prefer a pair of breasts to cheesy Hollywood-style love scenes.

  • OMG! Nudity in a STRIP CLUB?

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  • I was a little surprised that the game featured nudity, but I think it fit the scene well so I don't have any problems with it.

    Besides the fact that a strip club is the obvious place for nudity, the nudity fit in with the gritty tone set in Episode 1 - plus it made the stripper seem more vulnerable, and thus made Georgie appear to be even more of a monster than he already is.

    • Hmm, that's an interesting reason as to why they had the nudity. This would have been interesting to develop further I think, go a bit deeper into the character as we don't know much about her(Maybe she could play a part in later episodes, would like to see snow help her get a proper job or something before the end, would show the beginning of change). In all honesty I didn't think Georgie too bad, maybe I chose the wrong dialog options, but he seems like every business man I meet lol :D. Just kidding, but I can see where hes coming from, and the people turning to him should probably look elsewhere, then again there isn't really anywhere else so I don't really know lol :D. Rethinking it, I guess he is a bit of an asshole, I wish that was developed further though for more cynical minds like mine :/. It reminds me of the episode in South Park where Butters becomes a Pimp, but treats them really nice and steals everyone elses girls lol.

  • Breasts are truly more outrageous and uncivilized than severed heads, it seems

    Anyways... We even get to see Bigby naked in the comics, sooo... It's really nothing new.

  • I want strip show and titties. If you need romantic bullcrap watch sparkling vampires. Leave nudity alone.

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