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Wow a new Monkey Island. This is really great news.

I hope they will make an inventory that lets you combine items like in the old games. I very much disliked the way they did it in sam&max. Allowing items to only be used directly with the environment is simply too easy. It destroys the atmosphere of such great adventure games.

But a new imperfect Monkey Island is certenly better than no new Monkey Island. :)

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  • You will be able to combine inventory items according to gamespot.

    "Tales of MI will have the traditional puzzles that use items you find in the environment, as well as a combination of objects, which can be combined in your inventory" (ToMI First Look article, Gamespot)

    Not having this in Sam and Max took away fun/difficulty, glad to read Telltale have changed this for ToMI:D

  • [Insert here the usual fanboy ramblings about how Telltale Games is too great a gift to the undeserving mankind.]

    Now that that's out of the way:

    Yes, this is my biggest concern at the moment too. My only concern, actually. I hope people agree that the difficulty level of for example Wallace & Gromit is not enough for MI. Monkey Island wouldn't be Monkey Island without some challenging brain teasers. Combining inventory items is one thing, but the general complexity of Telltale's puzzles needs a boost if they are going to work in a Monkey Island game, I think. So far, Sam 'n' Max did it best. But they are also more flexible than than the MI franchise since they have appeared in many different forms and media and have adapted to everything. MI is exclusively an adventure game series and needs to stay that way. S&M, SB and W&G work brilliantly as "story-telling games with puzzle elements". But please keep Monkey Island a classic, challenging adventure game, even if distributed episodically! If anyone can do it, I'm sure Telltale can. My two cents, anyway.

  • I'm a bit worried about the time based help system...

    I sincerely hope is completely and utterly optional, and you can easily deactivate it.

    I want nothing to do with it...

  • @gandalfill0 said: I'm a bit worried about the time based help system...

    I sincerely hope is completely and utterly optional, and you can easily deactivate it.

    I want nothing to do with it...



    As far as I can tell, setting the hint system to the lowest setting in both Sam & Max and Strongbad resulted in either the AI not providing hints at all, or at least making them so cryptic and random that I never recognized them as such. There shouldn't be any reason to worry, I don't doubt MI will be the same.

  • We're going a little more classic with the puzzle insanity, but we're not going to drive it all the way off the cliff. :) Inventory combination is back and better than ever. Also, you can dial the hint system up or down to your desire. Right now you can choose to give hints with four levels of algorithmically-generated frequency, from "never" to "often."

  • @Jake said: We're going a little more classic with the puzzle insanity, but we're not going to drive it all the way off the cliff. :) Inventory combination is back and better than ever. Also, you can dial the hint system up or down to your desire. Right now you can choose to give hints with four levels of algorithmically-generated frequency, from "never" to "often."


    hell yes

  • @Jake said: We're going a little more classic with the puzzle insanity, but we're not going to drive it all the way off the cliff. :) Inventory combination is back and better than ever. Also, you can dial the hint system up or down to your desire. Right now you can choose to give hints with four levels of algorithmically-generated frequency, from "never" to "often."



    Well....

    Once you are established as the new Monkey Island saga home you SHOULD drive it all the way off the cliff....screaming YEEEHAAA on the way down.

    C'mon we want some heavily insane puzzles around here. Is not that I'll be unsatisfied about the awesome stories and punchlines you should be polishing right now.... but I'm in a dire need of some old school mind twisting.

    Also, thanks for clarifying the help system thing.

  • For me, perhaps the biggest obstacle for this series will be the interwoven puzzles.

    All of Telltale's games so far have been linear, "lock" based puzzles where you have to solve (usually three) things to open up the next "lock".

    In Monkey Island, specifically number 2, you had many, many of these things going on at once, and often the solution of one puzzle formed part of another - and sometimes objects were re-used many times in different puzzles.

    I hope the puzzle structure is a little more free-form, but I feel that you can only really achieve a lot of that with a big gameworld, which then necessitates a bigger game - and that means that Monkey Island would be better suited to one game, rather than five "episodes". Hmm...

  • @darkowl said: For me, perhaps the biggest obstacle for this series will be the interwoven puzzles.

    All of Telltale's games so far have been linear, "lock" based puzzles where you have to solve (usually three) things to open up the next "lock".

    In Monkey Island, specifically number 2, you had many, many of these things going on at once, and often the solution of one puzzle formed part of another - and sometimes objects were re-used many times in different puzzles.

    I hope the puzzle structure is a little more free-form, but I feel that you can only really achieve a lot of that with a big gameworld, which then necessitates a bigger game - and that means that Monkey Island would be better suited to one game, rather than five "episodes". Hmm...



    I'm worried about this too, episodes - although I see the necessity of using this format for adventure games this day and age - really does place some limitations in terms of puzzles and gameplay.

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