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You know that feeling after watching Pirates of the Carribean 2? (Spoilers, mates)

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Yeah, my exact feeling while playing this Chapter. That in, a ton of plot thingies, not really twists, just THINGIES, tossed in ALL at once in a great big heap, every single character going on with something and that unsatisfying end where everyone doesn't know what the heck has been going on and Jack gets eaten by a giant Japanese fetish!

The puzzles which I could see being oh so tricky, and some turns out to be just clicking something double ('Oh no Franklin buried the spell! How will I ever - omg I just had to click him again. Wut?). I mean, just with the whole ghost and physical body thing could have given an awesomely tricky puzzle situation, but everything was so SCRIPTED that in the end I knew exactly when I was in a situation to click something, because it's usually LITERALLY HANGING THERE. With NO obstacles. JUST THERE.

Mainly, I have just this main gripe - What the heck WAS Elaine's masterplan that may or may not have included the Voodoo Lady because halfway through I just got lost what the heck was the motivation for EVERYONE in this situation. Except Guybrush, he's pretty much straightforward, like Will Turner in all the ruckus, except not attempting to do the double-deal like Will Turner thank GAWD.

For one thing, the part with Guybrush returning. I get to only use ONE dialogue option and then THE END? (And I know about the scene after the credits, that just rounds off, not particularly satisfyingly, but well enough). Seriously, no Elaine, no, I don't believe in that masterplan. BECAUSE IT'S BLOODY HELL RANDOM! She spends over half the gametime being controlled, how the heck could she have been in ANY way in control of some masterplan or whatever throughout this whole bleeding time. Also, yeah, the whole POINT was to pull Guybrush out of some ill-defined concept of fate - yet the entire thing was hinged on GB's ability to overcome any obstacle that pertains to LeChuck, which would fail if they actually succeed, so the entire plan hinges on the very...quirk of fate...they want...to...destroy *froths*

Just the opening, I don't even know what the whole thing was. Was she WAITING for GB finally to bust through? Was she really broken? What made her think submitting to the demon bride treatment mean she had a guarantee that she would be able to be completely in control at the right time at the right moment at to...*froths*

I mean in Monkey Island 1. She DIDN'T trust GB, that's why the monkeys-in-a-dress comes in. Elaine with a masterplan and GB to the rescue. Two mutually exclusive things people!

AND SHE DIDN'T EXPLAIN HER MASTERPLAN! IT NEEDED EXPOSITION! WHY DID I ONLY HAVE ONE OF CHOICE TILL THE ENDING! WHY WAS THE ENDING JUST...THAT!

GB should've really...questioned more...he seemed to be doing that a lot more till that point. After the rather traumatic opening, seriously, he HAS a right to ask a couple of things.

I was SO banking on the Voodoo Lady having switched bodies with Elaine so she could use her voodoo magic at the opportune moment. Cos hiding in plain sight, you know, the most obvious thing...

Maybe the Finale chapter should've been really two chapters or something, give more times to flesh out a lot of things, give more meat to the puzzles - have an ending that doesn't end with a whimper (scene after the credits only really helps a tiny bit).

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  • [quote]You know that feeling after watching Pirates of the Caribbean 2?[/quote]

    What feeling? Oh you mean the feeling that THAT WAS TOTALLY AWESOME?

    Yeah Dead Man's Chest was my favorite of the POTC movies.

  • davy jones RULES, so does jack sparrow, the guy with a monkey, the monkey itself, the rule book dude, is he jack bro or dad?

  • @Hee Ho Ho said: davy jones RULES, so does jack sparrow, the guy with a monkey, the monkey itself, the rule book dude, is he jack bro or dad?

    The guy with the banjo and shrunken head in the Brethren Court was Capt. Teague Sparrow, Jack Sparrow's father.

  • oh ok, he's like the big cheese. no one step out of line lol

    my favourite bit is "do you fear death" that sticks in the 2nd movie, but then in the 3rd,

    "do you fear death",

    "you have no idea" that's funny

  • I love how people tend to see wall-o-text and start being disruptive. All of you being off-topic, please get out. Now.

  • Personally, I got that feeling after seeing At World's End, not Dead Man's Chest. Now that was a mess of a movie!

    I'm still a little confused about RotPG, but I'll wait until I've played through it a second time before making any judgements.

  • @Secret Fawful said: The guy with the banjo and shrunken head in the Brethren Court was Capt. Teague Sparrow, Jack Sparrow's father.

    That shrunken head was purportedly his mother.

  • didn't the POTC's "voodoo lady" also showed up in a form of crabs in one of the movies? I remember something like that.

  • @Mataku said: didn't the POTC's "voodoo lady" also showed up in a form of crabs in one of the movies? I remember something like that.

    What can I say? Entries in the pirate genre have been ripping each other off since 1883. Seems a shame not to continue the trend.

  • @countbleck said: Personally, I got that feeling after seeing At World's End, not Dead Man's Chest. Now that was a mess of a movie!

    I'm still a little confused about RotPG, but I'll wait until I've played through it a second time before making any judgements.

    World's End was straight forward, if pretty much a worse movie overall. You'd think there' no possible where to make an epic pirate battle lame. But it is when it's only two freaking ships going head to head. The whirlpool, sure. But EPIC PIRATE BATTLES with FLEETS, AND A WHIRLPOOL, infinitely more epic.

    Dead Man's Chest made complex a pretty straight-forward premise. THEY'RE PIRATES. IT'S JACK. THEY'RE COOL! I LIKED Davey Jones, but the WAY the characters acted with the over-arcing plot was so needlessly double-handed, and Elizabeth was so freaking horny the entire movie, that it just wasn't an enjoyable ride at all. POTC1 was still the better movie.

    Same here. There's an over-arcing plot. It's in there somewhere, but it's explanation gets lost in something needless like the same exact puzzle (only much much easier) for shrinking that bloody sponge instead of SOME KIND of relevant plot-point/exposition that would help explain wtf was going on the entire time!

    Also yeah, I saw the Voodoo lady in the crabs and went 'meh'. I was kinda happy my exact description of what LeChuck was doing with the monkeys turned out to be exactly correct (the post with it is still around).

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