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How does LeChuck compare to other villains in your opinion. Possible Spoilers

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LeChuck has often been regarded as a comical villain, which is certainly true, but he has also done many things that other villains have never done before. All the murders and torture he does in the series really does pile up as the series progresses, especially in Tales.

I personally think LeChuck is one of the sickest and twisted villains out there, albeit comical. So my main question is this: How evil do you think LeChuck is when compared to other villains out there such as Ganondorf, Voldemort, Xehanort, Bowser, and whoever else? In terms of just being a character, how would you rank him?

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  • @Uzrname said: How did he then knew what he was going to do to get where he gets at the end? And why would he steal monkeys allegedly containing voodoo secrets if he knew about the Esponja?


    Because he was made human, not less evil. Evil humans exist, you know. Plenty of them around... PLENTY.
    Also, I think monkeys are easier to gather than an Esponja from a killer Leviathan...

  • I think LeChuck was more menacing when turned human. Or at least it was implied that he did more evil stuff when being alive. I mean, he killed both Guybrush and Morgan as humans, probably also assassinated the pirates that ambushed him (don't remember if it was when he was still human or after turning himself undead) and framed the Voodoo Lady as well. All in a day's work.

  • @Hassat Hunter said: Because he was made human, not less evil. Evil humans exist, you know. Plenty of them around... PLENTY.
    Also, I think monkeys are easier to gather than an Esponja from a killer Leviathan...

    Yes, well, I still believe he played all along. Because if he were to not know he became human, the first thing he'd do is still force Elaine to marry him or steal her or something, whether he was human or not. But considering he had this plan all along, he knew perfectly well what he was doing when he started being nice to Elaine (and everybody in particular).

  • I think that Tales!LeChuck is the most menacing LeChuck has been since Revenge. I think it's mostly the parallels in the endgame segments - being tossed around by a voodoo doll, or just... er, tossed around, in general. Punched around.

    (I'm drawing from my immense TV Tropes knowledge here) In observing a villain, we need to look at how much danger they pose, how effective they are it, and how much we're supposed to hate them. And honestly that... sort of changes from game to game for LeChuck. He was more comical in Curse and Escape, and his plans were less direct (putting us on a death roller coaster just doesn't have the same feel as punching us across Melee Island...), whereas in Revenge, Tales, and to an extent Secret, he was definitely more menacing.

    The scary thing about LeChuck in Tales was that we didn't know if he was good or not, which made us (general us here, not everyone, obviously) paranoid that he was going to pull one over on us. But it was always possible that he wouldn't, so we had no idea how much of a threat he posed. I don't really know if we're supposed to hate LeChuck. I think it's more that we're supposed to find him funny sometimes, but understand that he can get serious and deadly when he wants to.

    So no, he doesn't want to take over the world, or destroy the world, for that matter. But, as mentioned earlier, he DID kill many people, plunder towns, and terrorize the Caribbean for significant periods of time. It's evil on a different scale than villains the likes of Voldemort or Bowser, but... it's still evil.

  • @Reaper Lyn said: So no, he doesn't want to take over the world, or destroy the world, for that matter. But, as mentioned earlier, he DID kill many people, plunder towns, and terrorize the Caribbean for significant periods of time. It's evil on a different scale than villains the likes of Voldemort or Bowser, but... it's still evil.


    Does anyone else feel LeChuck going from "I'm going to kill everyone" in SMI to "I'm going to kill everyone... especially Guybrush" in LCR, then "I'm going to kill Guybrush, then everyone else" in CMI and EMI to "I'm REALLY going to kill this f.. Guybrush Threepwood now!" in Tales?

    Damn, Guybrush sure bugged him a lot... Like those noisy neighbors you always have next door.

  • I definitely think that LeChuck is a more threatening villain than Bowser, mainly because I've never found Bowser to be that scary, Bowser is more "argh, curse you Mario, but now let's work together because a giant talking sword has destroyed my castle" than "KILLING YOU NOW YUS". He's not cosmic evil on the scale of someone like Sauron, but at the same time I think I'd sooner trust Barbossa from Pirates of the Caribbean (inevitable PoTC comparison yay!) than LeChuck, mainly because if Barbossa does wind up murdering you, he's not going to raise you from the dead to be his slave/make you into a chair afterwards.

    For me, LeChuck's Tales incarnation is definitely the most menacing he's been since LCR, mainly on account of his casual and straightforward murder of Guybrush in Episode 4 (no elaborate deathtraps this time!) and the fight with him at the end of Episode 5. But by far, his most menacing incarnation in my opinion was in LCR. I was genuinely terrified of him in that game, to the extent that he gave me nightmares. (I was 12!) I would play through the entire game then switch it off after falling into the pit on Dinky Island because I was too scared of the part where he chases you around the tunnels. Sad but true.

  • @Uzrname said: Does anyone else feel LeChuck going from "I'm going to kill everyone" in SMI to "I'm going to kill everyone... especially Guybrush" in LCR, then "I'm going to kill Guybrush, then everyone else" in CMI and EMI to "I'm REALLY going to kill this f.. Guybrush Threepwood now!" in Tales?

    Damn, Guybrush sure bugged him a lot... Like those noisy neighbors you always have next door.


    Actually, he even focused on Guybrush in Secret. When LeChuck FIRST SHOWS UP, he says "You know what? I'm going to handle this new pirate-wannabe PERSONALLY. Can't leave a potential wrench in my plans up to minions, even if the wrench seems to be made of drying paper mache."

  • @Rather Dashing said: Actually, he even focused on Guybrush in Secret. When LeChuck FIRST SHOWS UP, he says "You know what? I'm going to handle this new pirate-wannabe PERSONALLY. Can't leave a potential wrench in my plans up to minions, even if the wrench seems to be made of drying paper mache."


    Yes, but he didn't know it was Guybrush... how happy was he before he knew this guy =)

  • @Uzrname said: Yes, but he didn't know it was Guybrush... how happy was he before he knew this guy =)


    Does that really matter? Granted, I suppose it wasn't a PERSONAL VENDETTA, but he was honed in on destroying Guybrush from the get-go. After that, we could say it's just an extension of that first job, a matter of personal pride in his work.

    Also, he was pretty happy. He was in a great mood, and it was just one of those good days to be dead.

  • @apenpaap said: Whose pancreas did he rip out?

    He did it to Allegro Rasputin from Escape while he was still alive.

    One thing that I would like to mention is that LeChuck does indeed want to conquer the world, or at least the seas. Someone had mentioned that LeChuck doesn't want to do so, but Tales has confirmed that he does as Guybrush stated “They’re going to take over the world together”. I always hated when people said that LeChuck solely wanted Elaine's hand in marriage. While that may be on the top of his list, he still wants ultimate power and complete control over all the seas. Tales confirms this and we saw just how horrible a world he can make in just a few hours. He is still a pirate after all and wants power, wealth, and a powerful army at his control in addition to the woman he is obsessed with at his side.

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