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iPad: Your thoughts?

posted by Chyron8472 on - last edited - Viewed by 937 users

I know it's not out yet, but family was having a discussion about it last week.

From what I've read, the starting price for the iPad is [edit]$500, which doesn't include 3G cell capability. For that, it costs $150 more ($650 total,)[/edit] for the device and $15/month for service. You don't use the 3G for a phone, but rather for access to the net.
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First, let me comment about how people are talking about the iPad vs. Kindle. My wife and I have a Kindle, and let me tell you that it's much more like reading a book than staring at a computer. That means that you can read for hours and not get eyestrain. With that in mind, I think the iPad would be a bad ebook reader because staring at your iPhone/iPod Touch for hours would give you a headache, I would think. Not to mention the Kindle's battery life lasts for days and weeks, not hours.


Second, it's no more than a giant iPod Touch with 3G access. That's all. It's like a tablet PC with the iPhone OS. Why would any current iPhone/iPod user buy one?


...My Dad says that he thinks it's going to be a big flop. What do you all think?

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  • @natlinxz said: Apple isn't the one doing flash wrong, Adobe is. How is it Apples fault that Adobe doesn't know how to program properly on Apple hardware? That's nonsense. Rather than delay the release of the iPad for a few months while Adobe works on something that probably won't work right, how about apple makes a bold decision like not adding flash support? It makes perfect sense.

    And you keep implying that the internet has to change for the ipad. And guess what? It will! So many websites have become iPhone-compatible in the last few years, and it will happen to the iPad as well.

    Shouldn't you program FOR the standard instead of expecting the standard to change because you're making too much money on the App Store? Apple is making all the moves of the Parasite, my friends. They're playing you all for fools.

  • @natlinxz said: Apple isn't the one doing flash wrong, Adobe is. How is it Apples fault that Adobe doesn't know how to program properly on Apple hardware? That's nonsense. Rather than delay the release of the iPad for a few months while Adobe works on something that probably won't work right, how about apple makes a bold decision like not adding flash support? It makes perfect sense.


    It doesn't matter who is doing it wrong. Even if I was absolutely certain that Apple had valiantly tried, for it's true and noble followers, everything it could while the evil Adobe corporation spit in their faces and laughed mockingly in their faces(while also working with everyone else and being displeased overall with Apple's decision to keep Flash off the iPad), then it wouldn't matter. The iPad would be a BAD DEVICE, and I shouldn't care whether or not it was actually Apple's fault. It would just be a bad device, despite all of Apple's efforts, and it's too bad that it didn't turn out good enough to be worth purchasing.

    And you keep implying that the internet has to change for the ipad.


    No, I keep saying that anyone who thinks that the entire internet can, should, and will change for the iPad are drooling morons that don't understand that products should work in the real world, and not some magical fantasy land you made up to make some technology company appear more capable than it really is.

    And guess what? It will! So many websites have become iPhone-compatible in the last few years, and it will happen to the iPad as well.


    http://www.hulu.com/
    http://www.youtube.com/
    http://www.newgrounds.com/
    http://www.kongregate.com/
    http://homestarrunner.com/
    http://machinarium.net/demo/
    http://espn.go.com/
    http://disney.go.com/index

    Also, pretty much every website for every movie created. Many sites for video games and video game companies use Flash for menus and user interfaces. I just think you are being foolish if you actually expect that every single person that has ever developed a site in Flash is going to marvel at the RADIANCE of the iPad's GLORIOUS REVOLUTIONARY FUTURE, and suddenly decide that they are going to immediately set to work converting their entire works into HTML5.

  • @Rather Dashing said: It doesn't matter who is doing it wrong. Even if I was absolutely certain that Apple had valiantly tried, for it's true and noble followers, everything it could while the evil Adobe corporation spit in their faces and laughed mockingly in their faces(while also working with everyone else and being displeased overall with Apple's decision to keep Flash off the iPad), then it wouldn't matter. The iPad would be a BAD DEVICE, and I shouldn't care whether or not it was actually Apple's fault. It would just be a bad device, despite all of Apple's efforts, and it's too bad that it didn't turn out good enough to be worth purchasing.


    No, I keep saying that anyone who thinks that the entire internet can, should, and will change for the iPad are drooling morons that don't understand that products should work in the real world, and not some magical fantasy land you made up to make some technology company appear more capable than it really is.

    http://www.hulu.com/
    http://www.youtube.com/
    http://www.newgrounds.com/
    http://www.kongregate.com/
    http://homestarrunner.com/
    http://machinarium.net/demo/
    http://espn.go.com/
    http://disney.go.com/index

    Also, pretty much every website for every movie created. Many sites for video games and video game companies use Flash for menus and user interfaces. I just think you are being foolish if you actually expect that every single person that has ever developed a site in Flash is going to marvel at the RADIANCE of the iPad's GLORIOUS REVOLUTIONARY FUTURE, and suddenly decide that they are going to immediately set to work converting their entire works into HTML5.


    Why don't you tell us what you really think about the iPad? I'm sure you just love it.
    I attempted to do sarcasm in text... I failed.

  • @Andrew Ryan said: Why don't you tell us what you really think about the iPad? I'm sure you just love it.


    No, no I do not. If this device wasn't a major product launch, I'd just ignore the thing. "Oh, another crappy device that nobody needs". But this is considered huge, it's considered revolutionary, and it is going to affect people, companies, and products in the future. The iPad is a CANCER, that threatens the very reasons I love computers. It posits that we don't want a world in which I go to Fry's to pick up a new graphics card or stick of RAM or Motherboard. It posits that, if I want to create, to actually CONTRIBUTE something longer than a URL, then I need a $70 accessory on top of my computer purchase. It posits that MY role is consumer. I pay a $500 entrance fee simply to GET INTO Apple's store, and they spend the rest of the time taking a solid 30% off the top of everything I buy. And I will buy, because the iPad isn't a computer, it is a purchasing environment, a consumption system, and I am intended to use it specifically as a portal for my money into Apple's bank account. The idea that these horrible ideas are going to become POPULAR, that they will infect the computer industry and the very way I will continue to be able to interact with my computer hardware...that disgusts me.

  • @Rather Dashing said: No, no I do not. If this device wasn't a major product launch, I'd just ignore the thing. "Oh, another crappy device that nobody needs". But this is considered huge, it's considered revolutionary, and it is going to affect people, companies, and products in the future. The iPad is a CANCER, that threatens the very reasons I love computers. It posits that we don't want a world in which I go to Fry's to pick up a new graphics card or stick of RAM or Motherboard. It posits that, if I want to create, to actually CONTRIBUTE something longer than a URL, then I need a $70 accessory on top of my computer purchase. It posits that MY role is consumer. I pay a $500 entrance fee simply to GET INTO Apple's store, and they spend the rest of the time taking a solid 30% off the top of everything I buy. And I will buy, because the iPad isn't a computer, it is a purchasing environment, a consumption system, and I am intended to use it specifically as a portal for my money into Apple's bank account. The idea that these horrible ideas are going to become POPULAR, that they will infect the computer industry and the very way I will continue to be able to interact with my computer hardware...that disgusts me.

    This is the best argument against the cancerous Apple Corporation I have yet heard. Still... Is there blood in the streets? Of course. Have some chosen to destroy themselves with careless consumerism? Undeniable. But I will make no proclamations, I will dictate no laws. The Great Chain moves slowly, but with wisdom. It is our impatience that invites in the Parasite of big government. And once you've invited it in, it will never stop feeding on the body of the city.

    Also, Apple keeps the Rapture Central Council in fedoras and silk suits, so I'm in no position to complain.

  • This thread is terrible. Stop role playing as Andrew Ryan, please, or leave the forums.

  • @Jake said: This thread is terrible. Stop role playing as Andrew Ryan, please, or leave the forums.

    But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

  • @Andrew Ryan said: But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?


    +1 vote

  • @Andrew Ryan said: But... but I like it here. I'm sure I have, like a fan. Somewhere? Anywhere? Can we have a poll? Please? Pretty please?

    +2 vote

  • @Rather Dashing said: +1 vote

    Says the guy who role played as the Videlectrix developers...

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