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iPad: Your thoughts?

posted by Chyron8472 on - last edited - Viewed by 547 users

I know it's not out yet, but family was having a discussion about it last week.

From what I've read, the starting price for the iPad is [edit]$500, which doesn't include 3G cell capability. For that, it costs $150 more ($650 total,)[/edit] for the device and $15/month for service. You don't use the 3G for a phone, but rather for access to the net.
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First, let me comment about how people are talking about the iPad vs. Kindle. My wife and I have a Kindle, and let me tell you that it's much more like reading a book than staring at a computer. That means that you can read for hours and not get eyestrain. With that in mind, I think the iPad would be a bad ebook reader because staring at your iPhone/iPod Touch for hours would give you a headache, I would think. Not to mention the Kindle's battery life lasts for days and weeks, not hours.


Second, it's no more than a giant iPod Touch with 3G access. That's all. It's like a tablet PC with the iPhone OS. Why would any current iPhone/iPod user buy one?


...My Dad says that he thinks it's going to be a big flop. What do you all think?

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  • You strike me as an unusual sort of person in terms of how you interact (or don't) with other people. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. Overall, this age of being constantly available for contact is pretty okay with me, but there are times when I don't really want to talk to people, so I can see how the lack of cell phone might appeal to you.

    Another thing about my cell phone is that my mother has some trouble with her health. My bedroom is in the basement and hard to yell down to, and she'll often call my cell phone when she needs help with something. Also, on Thursday, I went with her to the hospital for a blood transfusion (her red blood cell count was low, so her doctor ordered one). Upon our arrival, the doctor that saw her decided that he wanted to do a couple examination procedures on her and that she would have to be admitted overnight. I was at the hospital from 6:30 AM to 8:30 PM, following her around all over the place. My cell phone was invaluable as people were trying to get in touch all day to find out what was happening, as I bounced all over the hospital.

  • I'm not saying cellphones are never useful, nor that I'll never have one again. I just feel I don't need one with my current situation and lifestyle, so I'm not getting one.
    I tend to be annoyed with how people get things they say they "need", then complain they cost too much, when they often don't even need them in the first place.

    Right now the people I know where I live are my husband and his family. I live with my husband, and I can do without calling his family constantly :P
    My friends are either living in France, which means I'd need an international type of plan to talk to them (and need to take the time difference into account), or people I met online. In both cases, communicating through instant messaging or emails makes much more sense to me.

    I also haven't quite recovered from having a cellphone. The advantage is that people can reach you wherever you are. The problem is that people can reach you wherever you are. And leaving the phone off tends to result in people complaining that you're leaving your phone off.
    It was nice in many ways, but in other it felt like a prison. If I decided to just take a walk and not bring it with me, I'd have messages complaining that I didn't have the phone with me.
    Now people don't complain that I don't have a cellphone. They did at first and quickly adapted to it. Well, now I live in Canada anyways, but even when I was in France.

    We ended up planning things a bit more, instead of saying "let's meet around such place" and then calling each other to find each other, we'd give a clear meeting spot and time. Things like that. But all in all, I preferred it greatly because before it ended up too often with people calling while I was already on my way and canceling on me or something. Not having a cellphone forced people to be more reliable, only say they'd meet me if they actually wanted to, and only cancel earlier than at the last minute.

    I often joke that I'll get a cellphone when I have a lover so that I can talk to him without my husband risking picking up the phone.
    I think what I mean is that I can see how a cellphone can bring you some independence. However it can also bring you a lot of dependence, I feel. I enjoyed a lot of things about having one, but there are also lots of things that improved after I got rid of it.

    Either way, if I get one again, I'll have to try hard to find a simple one. I don't like all the "has a camera and a mp3 player and lots of other options" ones. I want something simple. I'd want a phone that's ONLY a phone.
    Okay, it can give time too, but that's it.

  • I didn't mean to imply that you were saying they were never useful, and I certainly get how your lifestyle pretty much renders a cell phone useless to you right now. However, if you ever go back to having one, I think you'd be hard pressed to find one that doesn't have some sort of camera built in. It seems to be pretty much a standard thing these days, at least on all the phones I've seen lately. And it's nice to have every once in a while, but still, I rarely use mine. With no flash and such low resolution, it's not like I can really use it for any sort of decent pictures.

  • @Rather Dashing said: It's really amazing how anti-develoer, anti-consumer, and just plain anti-good Apple can be.


    A good comparison I've seen lately was Apple is now behaving like mid-90s Microsoft.

    Truth be told, I even own an iPod (and plan on buying a 160GB Classic, since it's the only device of that size on the market) and rather like it's interface, but I hate hate hate the infrastructure Apple makes you put up with to use it with Windows (iTunes? QuickTime? Submarine Safari install? Puhleeeze!).

    Luckily, you don't have to use any of the above to fill an iPod since there's a plugin for my Windows audio media playing application of choice that cuts out the dependency on the abovementioned Apple bloatware.

    So while I really only expect my iPod to play music - I've never even used it to watch video - as a software developer I can't help but be majorly miffed at Apples lock-in tactics with regards to their other "appliances" *spit*...

    (Hello Apple? A 1 GHz CPU + 256MB RAM + 64GB flash is more than my last home server had, and that certainly wasn't an "appliance". Go stick your marketroidal "funny definitions for hardware" where the sun yadda yadda yadda...)

    And for the record - I don't have a cell phone either (and never had one, though I still have a Palm Pilot as an organizer), but if I had to get one it'd either be a Nokia Maemo based device or an Android-based device...

    Oh yeah, another thing - Apple calls it's iPad a "tablet" and then it doesn't even have a stylus with pressure sensitivity, like, oh, each and every other tablet on the market? Do they even realize how great that thing would have been for drawing?

    np: Autechre - Foil (Amber)

  • @GuruGuru214 said: However, if you ever go back to having one, I think you'd be hard pressed to find one that doesn't have some sort of camera built in.



    Grr.
    I don't know why exactly, but having extra things I don't need and won't use is extremely off-putting to me. I'd rather learn to live without something than get it and end up with extra stuff.
    I think it's the waste aspect. Things that I don't use, but were built and put there, demanding effort and resources.
    And I just don't get why they do it since it's such a poor quality. I've seen cameras that can play mp3s (but only like 7 tracks, and with bad quality), phones that can take pictures (but at a bad quality) and so on. It's unnecessary on bad quality, why force me to have it? I just don't get it.

    Maybe I'll find a good way to dig up my old cellphone, from the time they weren't even in colour.

    EDIT: Leak!!! I managed to change the subject >_

  • @avistew said: EDIT: Leak!!! I managed to change the subject >_<


    Wait, what? :confused:

    My thread still says "iPad: Your thoughts?" over here...

  • @GuruGuru214 said: I have to say, knowing how miserable the interface is in OSX and especially in iTunes



    Don't do there. Just don't.

    The only reason you find Windows (or linux, or whatever you use) easier is because you got to know computers by using it. And by your logic, a computer has to run windows to be a computer. I've talked to people who got to know computers by using Mac, and that is what they call a computer. Anything running Windows or Linux simply isn't a computer.
    And then you have people who frequently use both (probably because they own a Mac for personal use, but need a PC for work), and they prefer Mac for it's interface (But need windows for compatibility). Saying that Mac has a bad interface is just showing how ignorant you are when it comes to computers. I have never used Linux, and it's different from anything that I have used before, but I don't say it has a bad interface. I'm sure I would love Linux if I put the effort into installing it.

  • @avistew said: Grr.
    I don't know why exactly, but having extra things I don't need and won't use is extremely off-putting to me. I'd rather learn to live without something than get it and end up with extra stuff.
    I think it's the waste aspect. Things that I don't use, but were built and put there, demanding effort and resources.
    And I just don't get why they do it since it's such a poor quality. I've seen cameras that can play mp3s (but only like 7 tracks, and with bad quality), phones that can take pictures (but at a bad quality) and so on. It's unnecessary on bad quality, why force me to have it? I just don't get it.

    Maybe I'll find a good way to dig up my old cellphone, from the time they weren't even in colour.

    EDIT: Leak!!! I managed to change the subject >_<



    I understand what you're saying. I think the reason why people like having cameras on their photos is because they ALWAYS have their phone with them and can snap anything they like. Most people aren't interested in quality images (which is a shame) so it suits them just fine.

  • @natlinxz said: Don't do there. Just don't.



    Okay, I was a little harsh on OS X. I have used it before, but to be fair, I haven't used it a lot, and I haven't used it in the same sort of environment I use my own PC in. I can't say that it's miserable, and I know that there's plenty of people who love it, but my own experiences with it have been pretty poor.

    iTunes on the other hand... Apple dropped the ball on that one. The music store portion is decent, though I don't use it myself, but the library and iPod management system is functional at best.

    I'm sure I would love Linux if I put the effort into installing it.

    I've used Linux before, and that is a very dangerous assumption you're making there. In my experience, Linux is about as user-friendly as a rabid wolverine. I may not be a fan of OS X, but I'd be begging for it if it was the only alternative to Red Hat Linux.

  • @Rather Dashing said: If you have a cellphone, you get the benefit of never being "out of contact" with the world if you don't want to be.



    Sometimes I want to be out of contact, though.

    I don't like people expecting that they can call me anywhere I am when I have a cellphone. I've had two different jobs involving taking inbound (ppl call me) customer sevice/tech support calls, and it's made it so that often I hate answering the phone if it rings too many times in a day.


    I do like being able to make calls whenever I want, I just don't like the feeling that I'm on a leash.

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