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Let's talk about some animated shows, shall we? I've been watching one recently that I'd like to talk about, so I'm just going to gush about that, but feel free to veer off into whatever animated thing you think is awesome.

Conversation about manga got me thinking about a show I've been watching recently, The Tatami Galaxy. I stumbled on this completely by mistake, I was checking the new shows up on Hulu when the character designs in the preview thumbnail really caught my eye. Considering most modern anime character designs do a lot to turn me off to a show, this was a pretty big thing.

The show's art design is superb. It doesn't feel as cheap as the stuff made for kids, even if it may use many of the same cost-saving tricks, it hides them well. The character designs make me think of Ukiyo-e prints, which in the current homogenized anime world is extremely refreshing. They also include some live action film, which due to what they do with it actually looks really cool intermingling with the animation.

The show's story and narrative style took me almost the whole first two episodes to "get", but by the end of the second episode it became obvious what they're going for. Seems like a trick better suited to a short film than a series, but I'm really interested to see if they go any further with this and what paths they'll take this thing in. Even if it's just episodic from here on in The episodes almost REQUIRE either constant pausing or a second watch just to get everything, the show and spoken narration goes REALLY fast. It's worth a look just for the art, though, it remains visually interesting throughout the whole thing.

It has only aired through the second episode in Japan, and Funimation is posting subbed within 8 hours of the Japanese airing. It's the first Japanese show to really grab me since...oh, Paranoia Agent, I guess? It's really hard to recall these things and when they fit chronologically sometimes.

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  • @Secret Fawful said: I shouldn't, but I have to ask. I just have to ask. Why?

    You couldn't have seen them both fully. I think you're going off of some sort of presupposition. You'd have to be. If you hated it that much you couldn't have seen it all the way through. I can understand someone hating that series so little its like trying to make a monkey hate bananas. I can't even grasp the concept; its not in my realm of understanding. You may not even be able to explain it to me, the concept of hating it is so alien to me.


    I read scanslations of the manga when it first showed up on Toriyama's World, before Viz and Funimation licensed the series. I've seen a larger portion of the first animated series than I'd like through obsessed friends and my sisters, I've probably seen most of it. I've seen the Shambala movie. I've seen teh first three episodes of the redone series to know that I like this one even less than the first go at it. I'm just not into the magical clapping amputee midget show. It's not my style, I guess. Maybe it's better than the average tournament show, but it's just so...shonen.

  • And how about those old cartoons, huh? Remember Samurai Jack? Now that was badass. The art style is breathtaking, the action scenes are awesome, that one episode where Jack turns into a chicken was... unusual, and the story is classic. I miss that show. I hope the movie comes out soon.

    Also, I love The Tick, but, let's be honest, who doesn't? right? The Tick is my favorite superhero growing up. Though I don't remember 90s cartoons much. I remember The Mask, Project Geeker, Sam and Max, of course, and those Steven Spielberg show I don't watch much.

  • [quote="Rather Dashing"]I read scanslations of the manga when it first showed up on Toriyama's World, before Viz and Funimation licensed the series. I've seen a larger portion of the first animated series than I'd like through obsessed friends and my sisters, I've probably seen most of it. I've seen the Shambala movie. I've seen teh first three episodes of the redone series to know that I like this one even less than the first go at it. I'm just not into the magical clapping amputee midget show. It's not my style, I guess. Maybe it's better than the average tournament show, but it's just so...shonen. [/quote]

    It is shounen. I mean it is targeted toward boys. To be honest, putting aside that series, I don't get your style when it comes to anime. You seem to be pretty strict. As far as the series, it sounds like there's more going into your annoyance than just the series itself. I won't bore you with some long winded explanation about why people love the show or what its about in the heart of it, as I'm sure you get that well enough, so I'll just say I hope someday you can view it from a fresher perspective.

  • @tredlow said: And how about those old cartoons, huh? Remember Samurai Jack?



    Samurai Jack is old?

  • @Giant Tope said: Samurai Jack is old?



    Well, it's not on air anymore, anyway.

  • @Giant Tope said: This is old in my opinion. Great, btw.



    ...Fine...

    Actually, when it comes to old cartoons, I always liked Hannah Barbera 80s shows. Especially Jonny Quest and Blue Falcon.

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    @Secret Fawful said:
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    Mysterious Cities of Gold



    Ohhh, yes! This was an absolute must-see when I was a child. I used to dream about the golden condor... the theme music still thrills me. :D

    I'd really like to watch the series again, considering I was so young when it was on that I don't really remember much of the story. People tell me it holds up well.

  • @Rather Dashing said: I read scanslations of the manga when it first showed up on Toriyama's World, before Viz and Funimation licensed the series. I've seen a larger portion of the first animated series than I'd like through obsessed friends and my sisters, I've probably seen most of it. I've seen the Shambala movie. I've seen teh first three episodes of the redone series to know that I like this one even less than the first go at it. I'm just not into the magical clapping amputee midget show. It's not my style, I guess. Maybe it's better than the average tournament show, but it's just so...shonen.



    "Typical shonen" definitely describes the manga's first few volumes (i.e. how far Toriyama's World got with its scanlations before dropping the series). Which, of course, by default includes the first third of the first series and first fifth-ish of the second. I think the first FMA starts to show its true colors around the Lab 5 arc, and then solidifies that perception shortly thereafter in Episode 25. Brotherhood gets to the good stuff a bit faster, but like Secret Fawful said, those first fourteen episodes are an absolute chore to get through. Especially compared to adaptation quality of the same source material in the first series.

    That said, I don't blame you in the least if you think that's too much material to wade through before it "gets good." And if you've gotten as far as Episode 25 of the first series ... well, I'm not sure anything that comes after will convince you otherwise. It's hard to say. *shrug*

    (Side Note: Most fans agree that Conqueror of Shamballa is one of the weakest components of the first series. An opinion which I too share, though I managed to enjoy it much more once I saw the English-dubbed version.)

    On the other hand, FMA never entirely disregards its shonen roots. I would say that after a certain point, all of the versions transcend their "shonen-ness" rather than discard it wholesale. So if shonen does nothing for you -- even if it's shonen that's eventually turned on its ear -- I can understand. I'm not terribly bothered by shonen tropes ... at least in and of themselves. It's when the shows which employ said tropes become sprawling, seemingly directionless 300+ episode epics that I lose all interest (with One Piece being the possible exception that proves the rule, but that's a discussion for another day ...).

    One huge point in FMA's favor -- for both series -- is that not only do they both clock in at well under 100 episodes, but I know they're leading somewhere. They have ended/will end in a definitive manner. Related to that, another hallmark of both series (especially the second, due to the manga) is that they're quite good at tying everything together. Which is to say, everything -- or at least very nearly everything -- happens for a reason.

    Anyway ... I'll be back later to talk about other cartoons, once I've got something substantive enough written up. This topic is just way too much up my alley to leave it at talking about FMA. ^^;

    ... Okay, here's one quick thing I'll throw out there since Secret Fawful brought up Mysterious Cities of Gold:

    Avatar: The Last Airbender. Discuss.

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