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Thoughts after seeing the trilogy

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Yesterday, I saw the Back to the Future trilogy in a row. I wrote a few comments on its forum.
Today, I've seen the Jurassic Park trilogy in a row. Now these are my comments for the game:

* I'd gladly see Isla Nublar again. After two adventures on Sorna, returning to the first island would be very nice.
* I don't care what Spielberg, Koepp or anyone else could say: I just don't believe that the T-Rex is the only dinosaur that comes to San Diego on the ship. Even with the suspension of disbelief while you're watching the movie, it's plain impossible that something as big as the T-Rex could kill the people inside the bridge without wrecking the bridge itself. That severed hand hanging from the helm? Come on, there must have been raptors, compis or other smaller dinosaurs on the ship to make that slaughter. Those unnoticed dinosaurs could be a nice starting point for a game story, taking something already on the movies and continuing from there.
* Even if we like or not, there should be kids on the story. For better or worse, the "kids-on-danger" factor is a trademark of the Jurassic Park franchise. I only hope they add the kid on the script better than in The Lost World. Malcom's daughter? Oh, man! And that ludicrous gymnastics scene? That scene is for The Lost World the same as Monkey Kombat is for Escape from Monkey Island... Even in JPIII the kid is better added to the story. Actually, without the kid, there wouldn't be story at all...
* Regarding the playable characters, I think Ian Malcolm and Alan Grant are great characters, but they are a little burnt-out. Nick van Owen and/or Billy Brennan could be a nice idea, though. Or a grown-up Tim (and/or Lex).

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  • @guitarsareboring said: Right, finished the trilogy. Put off the third installment for ages because I've heard from several people that it's terrible - not so, I really liked it. Thought it was better than The Lost World.

    Thank you, I was thinking I was the only one...

  • Nah, your not the only one. I like all three films myself. Although I find it easier to find fault with the last two.

    There are worser follow ups. Could you imagin if Jurassic Park ended up like Lake Placid? The first was awesome but then part two became a made for tv movie as well as a part 3 coming out.

    I'm glad that didn't happen to Jurassic park.

  • It's too bad Michael died. I would of loved to see a Jurassic Park 4. :(

  • @mikeymang said: It's too bad Michael died. I would of loved to see a Jurassic Park 4. :(

    I know some have said (like Kathleen Kennedy) that the film series shouldn't continue because of Crichton's death but I think others are wanting to continue with it, like the director of JP3 who wants to start a second trilogy of films.

  • I don't think the Lost World boat scene was a plot hole at all. It was always heavily implied that raptors were behind the attack. There was no way the T-Rex could have done what happened, and besides, he was still in the cargo hold. The film is unclear about what happened to the raptors. Maybe they jumped overboard, maybe they got into the cargo hold and the rex took them out, maybe they were even killed in the crash. Either way, they obviously weren't on the ship anymore so the T-Rex became the immediate threat. Perhaps dialogue about the raptors was cut, or perhaps it was always meant to be a little vague and mysterious, but it was certainly implied that they were there. (The implication was especially clear to people in the audience who had read the books, where a raptors-on-a-boat scene did take place)

    I recently rewatched the trilogy too. I still love the films just as much as I always did, but something did stick out at me this time and it kind of left a sour taste in my mouth. The trilogy - especially the second and third films - always treat the dinosaurs as movie monsters instead of animals. What I mean is, each film has the requisite "ooh and ahh" scene where the characters are wowed by the fact that there are dinos walking around, but after that the films seem to go out of the way to show that every dinosaur these people come across is going to try to kill them. Even when they come across the dinosaur equivalents of elephants, ostriches or giraffes, the dinos will try to kill them. Sometimes it makes sense - the gallimimus stampede from the first film I get. But other times, it really doesn't. Why would a huge flock of fish eating pteranodons feel the need to attack a group of humans? Why would a newly-released triceratops stick around to rampage through a human camp instead of just running into the woods? Why would a giant spinosaur with an island full of food take the time to casually stalk a group of barely snack-sized people? Why would a group of tiny scavenger compys attack a healthy full-grown man carrying a machine gun for no good reason? I get the monster movie feel and the excitement of these scenes, but I preferred the first film's slightly more nuanced approach where the dinos acted, for the most part, more realistically. I hope the longer play time of a videogame will allow Telltale to include a larger variety of interactions with dinos, instead of just "this thing wants to kill you" all the time.

  • @BlankCanvasDJ said: I don't think the Lost World boat scene was a plot hole at all. It was always heavily implied that raptors were behind the attack. There was no way the T-Rex could have done what happened, and besides, he was still in the cargo hold. The film is unclear about what happened to the raptors. Maybe they jumped overboard, maybe they got into the cargo hold and the rex took them out, maybe they were even killed in the crash. Either way, they obviously weren't on the ship anymore so the T-Rex became the immediate threat. Perhaps dialogue about the raptors was cut, or perhaps it was always meant to be a little vague and mysterious, but it was certainly implied that they were there. (The implication was especially clear to people in the audience who had read the books, where a raptors-on-a-boat scene did take place)

    I recently rewatched the trilogy too. I still love the films just as much as I always did, but something did stick out at me this time and it kind of left a sour taste in my mouth. The trilogy - especially the second and third films - always treat the dinosaurs as movie monsters instead of animals. What I mean is, each film has the requisite "ooh and ahh" scene where the characters are wowed by the fact that there are dinos walking around, but after that the films seem to go out of the way to show that every dinosaur these people come across is going to try to kill them. Even when they come across the dinosaur equivalents of elephants, ostriches or giraffes, the dinos will try to kill them. Sometimes it makes sense - the gallimimus stampede from the first film I get. But other times, it really doesn't. Why would a huge flock of fish eating pteranodons feel the need to attack a group of humans? Why would a newly-released triceratops stick around to rampage through a human camp instead of just running into the woods? Why would a giant spinosaur with an island full of food take the time to casually stalk a group of barely snack-sized people? Why would a group of tiny scavenger compys attack a healthy full-grown man carrying a machine gun for no good reason? I get the monster movie feel and the excitement of these scenes, but I preferred the first film's slightly more nuanced approach where the dinos acted, for the most part, more realistically. I hope the longer play time of a videogame will allow Telltale to include a larger variety of interactions with dinos, instead of just "this thing wants to kill you" all the time.

    Well the second movie in my opinion treated them like animals too, and they did show a lot of animalistic behavior. Why the Stegosaurs attacked sarah, was because they saw her as a predator.

    The Tyranosaurs were the same.

    The Compies attacking dieter, was a little bit of vengence for when he shocked one for sniffing his boot.

    The Trike, well you'd be pissy too, if you were man handled and stuck in a cage.


    JP III Basically repeats the same as TLW except for the Spino, and the Pointless Rex fight.

    The Pteranodons, were protecting their territory and the Raptors saw the humans as theives.

  • I've watched all three movies, didn't like the second and really hated the third. It was just one stupid dinosaur chasing scene after the other. And it was so predictable. I remember seeing Sam Neill pick up that Raptor bone flute thingy and immediately knowing what would happen in the end. Really bad writing.

    The first one is still one of my favourite movies though. It had really strong themes like the hybris of man, unpredictability and uncontrollability of nature, one old man's dream gone horribly wrong... And still had good action. So I really hope TTG are going to build on that.

  • @waroftheworlds01 said: Sam Neil is more likely than Jeff Goldblum seeing how he's in Law and Order now.

    Although i hope he's able to have at least a cameo because Jeff Goldblum is awesome.


    Jeff Goldblum is actually leaving Law and Order now! So if they do start making JP4, he might be able to be in it! :D

  • whatever the game will be, they should base it off the book, thats where the good stuff is. the movies were alright but the book was fantastic.

  • As long as they stick to the first one for incentive, they shall not fail. If any peculiar notes are taken from the sequels, it should strictly be from the novels IMO.

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