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500k Youtube Lawsuit???

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In case you haven't heard, Youtube user Nalts recently put up a video of an Icecream man (and the video has since been taken down) which I assume has not gone viral, but the video is not the main point. The point is that this Ice Cream Man has gone and brought up a lawsuit suing BOTH Youtube and Nalts for 500 grand due to the fact that this video was put up without his permission and that it is a "violation of his privacy". And no, this is in no ways a joke (there's even this picture dealing with the case).


My opinions:

1. Why does a man have the job of an Ice Cream man, yet have 500k of money?
2. There's a reason why people who are featured in viral videos don't make lawsuits: It's not a violation of privacy because anyone could video tape anyone in public easily. Take the "Bedroom Intruder Man" for instance.
3. Although YouTube could help out financially, there is no reason why they should be involved in this as well. They only provide the player and the upload tool: they had nothing to do with filming the video.

What do you all think? I think it's an outrage for sure.

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  • 500k's ripping the arse out of it, but I agree with the Icecream man. The amount of times someone's taken a photo of me and posted it on Facebook assuming I wouldn't mind (I don't really, but it's the principle of the thing)

    Some of us peeps really like our privacy

    Yours Sincerely.

    John T. Hawthorne
    22 Accacia Avenue
    Swaziland

  • Okay, so its fair, he ruined his privacy. I understand that. BUT 500 GRAND! i have a feeling about 2oo videos on youtube will have to do with this lawsuit.

  • @BoneFreak said: Because if Nalts does lose and the sue amount hasn't been touched, that will be depressing. First off, it's a ridiculous amount, and second off: what will Nalts have left for him? He's married and has 2 kids, it'd be truly, REALLY sad if he goes into debt (which I assume will happen) at this moment.

    He was asking for it though.
    In one of his video rants he even insults some Best Buy employee for being such a spoilsport and calling the police.
    The situation was, Nalts making fun of some Geek Squad guy. He didn't like being filmed. He told him to stop, several times. Nalts was all like "Hey its cool. It's only for youtube." But he did not stop. Something like that was bound to happen. It is just something he has to learn.
    Although it is a shame that he has to learn it so late in the process of his channel and not early on like every other (good) filmmaker.

    And yeah. It is a big amount of money.

  • I guess I would probably be pretty upset if someone stuck me up on youtube without asking. I just wouldn't be 500k upset.

  • @Katsuro said: He was asking for it though.
    In one of his video rants he even insults some Best Buy employee for being such a spoilsport and calling the police.
    The situation was, Nalts making fun of some Geek Squad guy. He didn't like being filmed. He told him to stop, several times. Nalts was all like "Hey its cool. It's only for youtube." But he did not stop. Something like that was bound to happen. It is just something he has to learn.
    Although it is a shame that he has to learn it so late in the process of his channel and not early on like every other (good) filmmaker.

    And yeah. It is a big amount of money.

    The guy does sound like a dick, and sounds like he should be taught a lesson. I've never heard of this guy untill now.

  • @Katsuro said: He was asking for it though.
    In one of his video rants he even insults some Best Buy employee for being such a spoilsport and calling the police.
    The situation was, Nalts making fun of some Geek Squad guy. He didn't like being filmed. He told him to stop, several times. Nalts was all like "Hey its cool. It's only for youtube." But he did not stop. Something like that was bound to happen. It is just something he has to learn.
    Although it is a shame that he has to learn it so late in the process of his channel and not early on like every other (good) filmmaker.

    And yeah. It is a big amount of money.

    Well, that is bad. There are a bunch of Youtubers I don't care about (Nalts being one of them) that are just annoying, but I bring this lawsuit up because, yes, it is a big amount of money.

    I could see a lawsuit of 5k or less with this situation.

  • @Sailorcuteness said: doesnt the ice cream man allready have hundreds and thousands

    Oh, you.

    I agree, the whole thing is ridiculous.

  • Does anybody know the current status of all of this?

  • I forget, but I think it's actually legal for him to tape people in a public space. Gonna have to look that one up, though.

    EDIT: OKAY SO. Not sure how legit this is, but according to this link, it's perfectly legal for this Nalts fellow to tape people in public - that includes retail stores and the like, unless the store says taping isn't allowed. So yeah!

  • @DoctorCello said: I forget, but I think it's actually legal for him to tape people in a public space. Gonna have to look that one up, though.

    EDIT: OKAY SO. Not sure how legit this is, but according to this link, it's perfectly legal for this Nalts fellow to tape people in public - that includes retail stores and the like, unless the store says taping isn't allowed. So yeah!

    Eh...
    "The best way to protect you from being sued for invasion of privacy is to obtain the subject's permission or consent to be photographed. "

    As soon as one or more persons (like a group) is the focus of the recording, NORMALLY! you have to ask them for permission. This is their (and also your) right of privacy. If you film a whole place, it's fine if you have a crowd of people in there.

    I can't believe that people make such a big deal out of this one. It isn't a law that suddenly popped up yesterday. It is something that has been around for some time. It's just how things work if you publish your videos or pictures online (like youtube).

    Edit:
    I did a bit of research and it turned out it is actually like this in germany.
    In germany you have the right to forbid publishing of your image if you don't like it being published (aka what I wrote above).
    In USA however it seems to be ok if it is in an art context (because your guys first amendmands covers your right of free speech).

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