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lame humour?

posted by foxmcloud58 on - last edited - Viewed by 343 users

Now, I really like sam and max, i love the games, but most of the jokes are just really lame. I laugh at some of em, but not all, is every1 like this?

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  • @Hatley said: Sadly, I don't find many of the jokes funny. But it's not MY fault-I have aspergers, I shouldn't even HAVE a sense of humor, yet I just barely do.

    I've got aspergers syndrome as well & most of the season had Me in stitches bar a bit of 305.

  • @Hayden said: 75% of the jokes from Sam & Max at least get a smile out of me, 10% fall flat on their face, and 15% make me properly laugh. Overall, S&M has great humour in most of it's writing. I do, however, personally prefer Monkey Island's humour.

    For the record I haven't played Curse or Escape, and first two games are known for their atmosphere and NOT for their humor (although it is also present), so the funniest series of MI I have played is ToMI. And, well, I think MI is less absurd and more dependant on "joke opportunities" born from its own plot, whereas Sam & Max's plot mostly borns FROM joke opportunities. I still think Sam & Max is the funnier one in the end simply because it's less limited to crack a joke (although it doesn't mean neither of them are the better one). I also think ToMI relies on "what you're about to say is disgusting so I'm not letting you talk no more, have a feast on my disgusted impression instead" jokes a bit too much.

  • I guess someone has to speak for the HFA part of the spectrum: I thought S3 was rather humorous. It didn't come across to me as "lame"...except when it was supposed to, hehehe.

  • @Falanca said: For the record I haven't played Curse or Escape, and first two games are known for their atmosphere and NOT for their humor (although it is also present)

    I... what? The atmosphere? The games have barely any straight lines at all and a rubber chicken on a pulley. They're the iconic Lucasarts comical adventures, most decidedly well known for humour. They're known for having a different atmosphere than the games which come later in the series, but humour is still the foremost quality.

    I also don't know why people are disputing that most of the jokes in Sam and Max are lame. There is an abundance of horribly corny gags, and with good reason: the writer/s try to think of multiple jokes about every single thing in the game. The bad jokes are piled on to maintain a perennially comical tone and ensure the setting is right for the really good jokes, of which there are many.

    The density of bad jokes is actually lower in the third season than in the other games, and I think it loses something for it. Not that I didn't enjoy it.

  • @Falanca said: For the record I haven't played Curse or Escape, and first two games are known for their atmosphere and NOT for their humor (although it is also present)

    No, I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with you here. I think that the original two games are known for both their atmosphere and humour equally. These games were renowned for their humour. Sure, there was a great atmosphere, and the games are known for that as well, but the atmosphere is balanced equally with the humour.

    Morzax explained it perfectly ^.

    @Falanca said: And, well, I think MI is less absurd and more dependant on "joke opportunities" born from its own plot, whereas Sam & Max's plot mostly borns FROM joke opportunities.

    So, are you saying that Sam & Max's plot is more centered around the jokes, whereas Monkey Island's jokes are more 'clipped onto the side of the plot' and integrated after the initial plot has been laid out? I think I'd agree. Only to an extent though, because since Sam & Max is such a zany and ridiculous sort of a series, it would be much easier to throw in jokes because the writers don't have to worry about derailing the overall theme, and they don't have to focus on maintaining an atmosphere - they don't have to worry about screwing things up, because anything goes in the Sam & Max universe. I think it's more-so just that freedom in writing that creates so many joke opportunities, rather than jokes being made the priority and the plot then being woven around the jokes, as you may have been suggesting(?).

    @Falanca said: [In Sam & Max] it's less limited to crack a joke

    Exactly. This is basically what I was trying to say in my last paragraph. The world of Sam & Max is just so wacky that the writers can do whatever they want as far as the writing goes, which makes the game the perfect vehicle for cracking jokes. Also, being set in the present, it's easier for the writers to write satirical jokes about things relevant in today's world. Whereas, with ToMI, it's set in the past, and there's all of that timeline stuff to consider; they have to be historically accurate to a degree.

    @Falanca said: (although it doesn't mean neither of them are the better one).

    Exactly. It just comes down to personal taste and preference in the end, doesn't it? Thankyou for not stating your opinion as fact - a lot of people don't have that ability :).

  • My preference would have to be Sam and Max, they're dynamic and main characters are more original and open than in MI.

  • To me the humor wasn't too bad. I'm more annoyed at the character and model reuse.
    But the main flaw is the fact most episodes switch to something completely different in the middle and sort of ruin the narrative and mood. The third episode starts great with Noir Sam and you really get in the mood, but then the whole thing goes to an alternative reality and throws the first part in the dumpster. And in the third part you have a great Zombie spoof, being stuck in the diner, but that too doesn't last long. So I don't blame the humor for not liking this season too much.

  • Are you playing the first season? Because it definitely gets better. Culture Shock really fell flat with me, almost to the point that I didn't want to bother with the rest of of them.

  • I laughed out loud consistently many times playing the game. I think the jokes are clever and charming and the rest of the plot interesting and enjoyable. I feel bad for you if you think the jokes are lame, that really sucks. I wish you could laugh like I do, you poor souls

  • I would define "lame humor" as "Disney & Nickelodeon standard humor." A lame joke can be identified by a groan followed by a slap to the head, & not so much "was that a joke? I didn't quite catch that."

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