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Opponent AI, and what makes hard mode harder?

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I've been playing on the "hard" setting for a while. I figured they would play better on hard mode, but from what I've seen that's not the case. They still play almost any two cards and make a lot of really bad calls. I just saw the Heavy call an all in bet with an absolutely unwinnable hand on the hard setting. There were three nines on the board, and he had 3 2 in his hand, with no flush draw. There was literally no hand he could possibly be winning against, but he called all-in and just gave away all his chips. I guess it's just bad AI that has him think "oh great I have 3-of-a-kind" even though the 3-of-a-kind is all made up of community cards.

On the other hand, ever since I enabled Hard mode it suddenly seems like they draw out against me constantly. I play poker a lot and I know in poker you can get unlucky sometimes and go on a streak of bad-beats, so maybe it is just a coincidence. But I just turned on hard mode and I see that they aren't playing any smarter and suddenly they're getting lucky against me constantly. It leads me to the ugly conclusion that "hard" mode basically means the computer cheats by giving the opponents the cards they need to make the winning hand more often. That would certainly be easier to program than trying to make the AI smarter.

Has anyone tried hard mode, and what have you noticed different about it?

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  • hah, I've been playing in normal mode and had a run of bad luck, before finally winning a tournament. Generally speaking though I'm getting a mix of good and bad cards, and I'm just hoping the characters have some sort of pattern to their betting I can work out so I can bluff/beat them as required... not working so far!

  • @Molokov said: hah, I've been playing in normal mode and had a run of bad luck, before finally winning a tournament. Generally speaking though I'm getting a mix of good and bad cards, and I'm just hoping the characters have some sort of pattern to their betting I can work out so I can bluff/beat them as required... not working so far!

    Max almost always bluffs for me. and tycho only checks if he has a bad hand.

  • For me too, hard mode was not much different to easy mode. I did have a slightly harder time fighting the Heavy in the 1-on-1 match in the end, but it was still ridiculously easy.
    I don't even play Poker very often and when I do I get my ass handed to me, but in this game I never lose :(

    (But maybe that's what the target audience wants, so it's basically 5$ for some TF2 items, so idk... I bought the game for playing poker mostly, so I'm slightly disappointed by the difficulty.)

  • It does seem like behavior hasn't changed in hard mode, only "cheating", like you say - the ratio that I get good/bad cards compared to others. May not be true, but that's also been my experience...

    Keep in mind that playing horrible cards isn't necessarily "stupid" if the player was trying to bluff. But I don't see any differences in behavior, really, between the skill levels. Just the cards.

  • Supposedly the CPU play is a lot more random on Easy. I wouldn't know, since I've never played on Easy.

    I really doubt they'd make the cards cheat in anybody's favor.

  • @furrykef said: Supposedly the CPU play is a lot more random on Easy. I wouldn't know, since I've never played on Easy.

    I really doubt they'd make the cards cheat in anybody's favor.

    Is there an "easy" mode? I only have Normal and Hard (not being pedantic, but lots of people have mentioned "easy" mode so just wondering).

    I definitely could be wrong about the cards handling - I haven't exactly done scientific testing. But it sure seems that way to me...

  • By "easy" I meant normal. They're both quite easy for me, though. :P

  • Lucky you, "normal" is too much for me... gotta need easy.

  • @Hassat Hunter said: Lucky you


    Not lucky, just experienced. :)

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    The main difference between normal & hard is that on normal the AI is more likely to bluff/play bad cards, and is easier to scare off pots when it has a hand (ie more likely to fold to a raise even though it has good cards).

    Beyond that, we are talking about degrees. Ill spare you the boring details, but every AI decision runs through a tree, with weights based on its skill level. The smarter the AI, the better decisions it will generally make. But nobody is perfect, and in poker even good decisions can have bad results. Also, each player has slightly different play styles, so even on Hard mode, Max is wild and unpredictable.

    I know some people won't believe me, but I took care to make sure that the AI never cheats, and never takes advantage of the "God's Eye" - the fact that the program knows everyones cards at any given time. If you are getting bad beats, that's just poker. If it makes you feel any better, I played 9 times on hard before I won my first tournament, losing some on some horrible luck!

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