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It's not the same... (Spoilers)

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I just finished 305, and despite the supposed return to status-quo, I still feel that it's not the same, that's not OUR max, it's just a replacement, the real max, the one we've loved for 3 seasons, is dead... which leaves a tiny hole in my soul...

Anyone else feel this way? or are you all just glad there's a replacement max so the series will go one as if our max was still alive?

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  • @Hatley said: Ummm......half-demon Max? When he's got the colour scheme of Maxzilla but his normal size?

    Yep that's the one. Wouldn't it be awesome, having that model of Max running around the streets with Sam solving crimes with his awesome evil teeth?

  • *sings* If you cant be with the Max you love honey, love the Max your with! :o

  • @Ashton said:
    Anyone else feel this way? or are you all just glad there's a replacement max so the series will go one as if our max was still alive?

    @Ashton said: Chuck stated Max has a hive mind and knows the presence of all Maxes. So this Max knows the memory of old Max in a way(he also said all the wierd pictures you say while playing as Max is him remembering adventures of the other Maxes)

    I like Chuck's explanation very much - not because it explains anything (it doesn't), but because it provides a different way to observe Sam & Max that is much more apt to their universe than seeking logical connections from one act to another. Some of you guys are trying way too hard to rationalize events in a universe that wasn't meant to be rational in the first place.

    @Ashton said: Maybe; By the way:p. If TTG decides to take this route I'm fine as long a it gets explained/fleshed out. It does simplify things. But what about Sam....?

    And this, too. I'd be surprised (even disappointed) if too much explanation was attached. I'd love to see (control? ooooooooooh!) Huge Electromagnetic Sam, though - not to piece together unknown events, but for the fun of it.

  • @Gohaku said: Maybe; By the way:p. If TTG decides to take this route I'm fine as long a it gets explained/fleshed out. It does simplify things. But what about Sam....?

    I guess I'm wondering as to why it would need to be fleshed out. Much like the whole deal with Max's death in Bad Day on the Moon, it follows very classic Sam and Max comedic timing. ie: drama gets amped up, things do not look good, then in the next panel it switches to a completely different scene where everything got fine and dandy again, with little to no explanation, and it's never referred to again. It's supposed to be underplayed. That's the point.

  • @Giant Tope said: I guess I'm wondering as to why it would need to be fleshed out. Much like the whole deal with Max's death in Bad Day on the Moon, it follows very classic Sam and Max comedic timing. ie: drama gets amped up, things do not look good, then in the next panel it switches to a completely different scene where everything got fine and dandy again, with little to no explanation, and it's never referred to again. It's supposed to be underplayed. That's the point.

    In that comic it was ok because it was clear what had just happened. This 305 end scenario just felt a little ambiguous....
    We've been playing a straight line so far and there have even been moments of nostalgia even though continuity was not the focus. I'm not one to judge anyone's style of storytelling, but Max's death and return hasn't occurred enough to be the comedic standard in the series. Or rather, the manner in which it happened this time

    I thought it was a bold move to delve into a more dramatic side of Sam&Max which I found fun and intriguing. Sam's and Max's characters seem a lot more complex than we've previously known. However, the ending made it seem as though this Max is different and will take the story in an obscure direction. But, since Chuck mentioned that Max is a hive mind, I'm not sure what to think now. :confused:

  • To be honest, the other max coming through the time machine seems like a somewhat sneaky way to get people to buy season 2, so they understand what was going on. To me, anyway.

  • For whatever reason, I keep transposing Brazil's ending to Max's return at the end of 305. For the uninitiated, Terry Gilliam has a penchant for including twists-for-the-worse at the end of his films (I'm spoiling endings here); in Brazil, the main character is about to be tortured when all of a sudden he's rescued by a supporting character, then there's the happy ending, but there's one final scene that the guy went insane and the rescue was all in his mind. So I'm [probably mistakenly] thinking Max's return is all in Sam's mind.

  • When the credits rolled, I thought it was like CMI where the credits stop and Max is really alive. But when they kept going on, I felt so sad. I don't like the idea of old Max officially dead for some reason.

  • I keep seeing people suggesting that the fourth season be about getting the old Max back. Problem is, if we go through an entire series trying to save Old Max, we'll end up slowly bonding with New Max, and then we'll miss him once we get the Old One back and say it's not the same.

    Actually, that'd be kind of funny if Telltale did that. Especially if they kept making fun of that in the future Sam and Max seasons.

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    @queen_of_the_lobsters said: I keep seeing people suggesting that the fourth season be about getting the old Max back. Problem is, if we go through an entire series trying to save Old Max, we'll end up slowly bonding with New Max, and then we'll miss him once we get the Old One back and say it's not the same.

    Actually, that'd be kind of funny if Telltale did that. Especially if they kept making fun of that in the future Sam and Max seasons.

    Or... we could end up with two Maxes. Which the world really, REALLY does not need. One causes enough destruction already!

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