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The DeLorean explanation (merged threads)

posted by Mino_Dan on - last edited - Viewed by 4.3K users

Sounds a bit cheap and highly illogical.
Could he be lying to prevent a paradox?

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  • For instance, suddenly in BttFII we got introduced to the existing of parallel dimensions.

    Well, that argument in particular is not 'suddenly', that's an extended view of the phenomenon that happened in the end of BttF1. Though, there are some problems with it, yes.

    And with Marty and Jeniffer traveling to the future, shouldn't there 2015 counterparts NOT be there?

    Since this is the only trip to the future in the whole series - that's a question that has no answers. I always saw the logic in it though: if you go to the future you'll see your future selves which in the already happened past (relatively to the future you went to) came back from the future and lived long enough to see the future you're in. That actually makes sense.

    I agree about bending the rules (some of those bendings I don't like, btw) in the sequels, but the two arguments you've chosen are not really part of them (well, the first one partially, yes).

    But, that's not the point. The point is (I said that before and I'll say this again): if they will play out this fact in the story in an interesting manner, I will ultimately be fine with this. If they will not play this out in an interesting manner: I will NOT be fine with this, and if this is just an explanation they've created for an optional dialouge (because that line IS optional) which will not be played out in the story AT ALL: I will be very angry and would rather wish they didn't create any explanation at all, or made it all VERY, VERY vague.

  • ^
    If the line was optional it will probably be fleshed out. I have a feeling we'll be visiting 2025 anyway so then it'll probably get discussed again.

  • first of all, we don't know if there was or wasn't a duplicate of the doc, so its pointless to discuss that now.

    Second, i support the idea of a new element added to the series to explain why the delorean got duplicated, it makes sense, there's no real reason why the game can't add something than wasn't talked about in the movies, its expanding the universe, and it dosn't leave any plotholes as far as i know. The duplicate thing could just not have been talked about before even if it existed, so its not wrong to put it in. Arguing about a new element being added is the same as say... arguing about showing the fact than Marty has became very respectfull of his father, its just something than wasn't shown before and it can be shown now, no big problem.

    Also it dosn't sound like some lame excuse tough out of the blue, the fact than the delorean traveled exactly 70 years into the future instead of some random date, makes it interesting, because you can think than the delorean overloaded so hard than it traveled both to the past and the future because it couldn't handle the excess of energy and the energy in the flux capacitor forced it way into the future too.

    You need to be a little open for this and don't let nostalgia take over, if you do, you'll see this explanation makes sense and its a lot better than what we could have gotten.

  • @Shadowknight1 said: EDIT: The 4th Dimension is time. ;)

    You'll note I said it could travel "in FOUR dimensions", not "the FOURTH dimension". The first three are space... the Delorean cannot leap to a different PLACE only a different TIME.

  • [quote]The duplicate thing could just not have been talked about before even if it existed, so its not wrong to put it in. [/quote]

    I'd like to think that Doc didn't even know it was possible.

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    the fact than the delorean traveled exactly 70 years into the future instead of some random date, makes it interesting, because you can think than the delorean overloaded so hard than it traveled both to the past and the future because it couldn't handle the excess of energy and the energy in the flux capacitor forced it way into the future too[/quote]

    That is a nice way to think about it.

  • @ThunderPeel2001 said: You'll note I said it could travel "in FOUR dimensions", not "the FOURTH dimension". The first three are space... the Delorean cannot leap to a different PLACE only a different TIME.

    Welllllll, if you want to get technical, the DeLorean CONSTANTLY changes place. You go one hour forward in time, you won't end up on the same road you were just traveling on. And if you go say six months into the future? You die because you appear in the middle of space.

  • @jeremycards said: Also it doesn't sound like some lame excuse tough out of the blue, the fact than the Delorean travelled exactly 70 years into the future instead of some random date, makes it interesting, because you can think than the Delorean overloaded so hard than it travelled both to the past and the future because it couldn't handle the excess of energy and the energy in the flux capacitor forced it way into the future too.

    I like this. It doesn't explain why Doc went one way, but at least it's not a totally random number!

  • @Shadowknight1 said: Welllllll, if you want to get technical, the DeLorean CONSTANTLY changes place. You go one hour forward in time, you won't end up on the same road you were just traveling on. And if you go say six months into the future? You die because you appear in the middle of space.

    Wellllll, that's one of the clear conceits of the films's logic: The car travels through time and NOT space. Which is why it's a time machine and not a matter transporter. It's also why there's no controls to choose where in the world you want it to teleport you.

    If you want to get technical, then Marty couldn't have travelled back and altered his past.

  • @Origami said: It duplicated to 2025. 70 years into the future. Just like the DeLorean got send back 70 years into the past; 1885.

    Maybe an explanation as to why the DeLorean got duplicated and not Doc is because Doc probably wasn't hit by the lightning. The DeLorean had the current running through it. The passenger is protected from the lightning, just like how Marty in BttF1 didn't get electrocuted.
    Another explanation could be is that molecules for something organic are more difficult to duplicate.

    Except for the fact that the lightning was channeled purposefully into the Delorean in the first movie instead of getting struck, wouldn't this mean that when the Delorean was struck by the current of lightning in BTTF1 that it should have duplicated then as well, perhaps sending a duplicated Delorean back into the past to possibly the year 1925?

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