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Is this game stillborn?

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It seems that most of the KQ fanbase has already decided to dislike this game before they've even seen a screenshot, trailer or otherwise. This game, which isn't even out yet, seems to be disliked even more than MoE! Most of the now hip negative feelings about it have come from some very disgruntled members of one or more fangroups who are angry that TellTale was chosen and they weren't--and they've managed to poison the atmosphere surrounding this game, being negative about it at any and every turn, I guess they feel they might as well try to bring this game down and kill it before it's born out of spite.

So, is this game stillborn--Dead in the water? Has the game been doomed to fail by most of the fan base deciding not to like it, and even in many cases, refusing to play it, before they've seen even a screenshot? I think it just may be.

I think KQ fans have been spoiled in a way by the fan games and now expect an official game to in essence be nothing more than licensed fan fiction, to be a game filled to the brim with fan service wankery, twisted plots and distorted versions of the characters.

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  • @Lambonius said: I strongly disagree. I don't give two shits how good the story is if the game sucks and fails to capture the "feel" of the old King's Quest games. If I can't lose myself in a fully explorable fantasy world, then no amount of good story or hard puzzles (wishful thinking, I know) can salvage it. King's Quest games should not be interactive movies.

    I believe that nothing can feel exactly the same as the originals, not even if the new game would be designed by Roberta Williams. But I wonder why you oppose my wish that game would have good story and decent puzzles, King's Quest 3-6 had good stories and challenging puzzles. First two games had little story but puzzles were good, while last two games had all right stories but no difficulty. Without decent puzzles and story you would have game which has as much story as KQ1 and as much challenge as KQ7.

  • @Olaus Petrus said: I believe that nothing can feel exactly the same as the originals, not even if the new game would be designed by Roberta Williams. But I wonder why you oppose my wish that game would have good story and decent puzzles, King's Quest 3-6 had good stories and challenging puzzles. First two games had little story but puzzles were good, while last two games had all right stories but no difficulty. Without decent puzzles and story you would have game which has as much story as KQ1 and as much challenge as KQ7.

    Well, I don't necessarily oppose the idea of the game needing good puzzles and a decent story, I'm just saying that the best KQ games had a specific element to them that is all but missing in every single Telltale game yet--exploration and interactivity.

    I mean really--people weren't playing KQ3 and KQ4 because the story was constantly gripping and kept them sucked in--the story set up the reason for exploring and interacting with the game world, and then it left the player alone to go and do just that. And you could interact with EVERYTHING (pretty much.)

    If you think about it, the "story" is practically non-existent in even KQ3 and 4--it just pops up at the beginning and ending. It bookends the exploration and puzzle solving and doesn't intrude onto them. It is revealed in bits and pieces throughout the game (the cutscenes with Lolotte, the conversations between animals in KQ3, etc.) but it doesn't overshadow the sense of escaping to that fantasy world and being free to explore and solve puzzles at your leisure.

    If they can't get that sense of exploration right, then the quality of neither the story nor puzzles will matter, because the game just won't feel like King's Quest.

  • Again it comes back to the episodic format limiting exploration. Has it been comfirmed KQ will be episodic? If this was a full game or an extra long episode (if they want) then i'd be more optimistic

  • @tmsmyth4 said: Again it comes back to the episodic format limiting exploration. Has it been comfirmed KQ will be episodic? If this was a full game or an extra long episode (if they want) then i'd be more optimistic

    It's not necessarily limiting, for example KQ3 and 5 had points from where you couldn't go backwards, so in similar manner episodic KQ could contain different areas to explore in each episode.

  • @Olaus Petrus said: It's not necessarily limiting, for example KQ3 and 5 had points from where you couldn't go backwards, so in similar manner episodic KQ could contain different areas to explore in each episode.

    And KQVII was even divided into chapters.

  • It's not necessarily limiting, for example KQ3 and 5 had points from where you couldn't go backwards

    So did KQ2 technically!

  • I don't think the majority of KQ fans are upset, but I too am annoyed at quite frankly, how much whining has been going on.

  • @GuybrushWilco said: I don't think the majority of KQ fans are upset, but I too am annoyed at quite frankly, how much whining has been going on.

    It's nothing unusual. I remember when they were making Tales of Monkey Island there was large "This game will suck because it's not like Monkey Island 1 & 2. We want Ron Gilbert's version of Monkey Island 3." -crowd. :D

  • Do I think it wont live up to what I think it should be, yes. Will I give it a chance and hope for the best, yes. To me it has a chance, but if it isn't good, telltale has more to lose than just one game. A large number of people are going to determine if they stick around and keep playing tell tale's products or leave all together based on one title. It is in TTGs best interest not to screw this one up.

  • @tmsmyth4 said: Again it comes back to the episodic format limiting exploration. Has it been comfirmed KQ will be episodic? If this was a full game or an extra long episode (if they want) then i'd be more optimistic

    Episodic, according to the first post of the first thread of this forum:

    @tmsmyth4 said: Welcome to the King's Quest forums!

    We're thrilled to bring back the classic adventure series in episodic form!

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