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You're complaining about the 3 Martys, but if the space time continuum is tearing apart like Doc said, it's "logical" that all the timelines are crushing together no? So all the timelines are joined together in one, which is why the continuum is tearing apart. This is not totally illogical for me, but it's really a disaster. What's your point of view?

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  • @Stretchcb1 said: But what im wondering is how did all the alterfuture Marty get there and A BLUE deloran?


    how do biker marty get a black Delok.i.t.t

  • @Stretchcb1 said: But what im wondering is how did all the alterfuture Martys get there and A BLUE deloran?


    Oh a Blue DeLorean, what a brainbuster. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with a paint job that Marty got at a later date, no it must have something to do with quantum physics and time travel

  • @Technomancer said: Oh a Blue DeLorean, what a brainbuster. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with a paint job that Marty got at a later date, no it must have something to do with quantum physics and time travel

    Well, Doc DOES mention that the future isn't written...that is to say, at any point in time, while the past is set in stone (unless you change it)...everyone has free will, and the future is therefore indeterminate...travelling into the future brings you into the logical extrapolation of events as they stood in the past at the time of your departure...

    And the multiple future Marty's idea isn't totally implausible considering the bizarre logic of BTTF...

    Consider, Marty's original plan to erase the FCB timeline...he and FCB Doc were planning to go back to August 25th 1931...had they succeeded in arriving on that date, there would have been 2 Doc's and 2 Marty's present in 1931 Hill Valley...the 2 Marty's would have been the same individual at different points in his personal timeline...but the 2 Doc's would be different versions from different timelines altogether...Lone Pine/Eastwood Doc from the movies, and FCB Doc...it would have been possible for both to co-exist in 1931...

    Now imagine if young Emmett saw both these Docs...from his POV, they would both be possible future versions of him (because, from the POV of anyone in 1931, the future isn't written yet)...he can choose to become either of them in the future, or he can choose a different path entirely...

    So multiple future versions can very much co-exist when they travel to the past...

  • well that helped....not the sarcastic guy below my first post

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    Now imagine if young Emmett saw both these Docs...from his POV, they would both be possible future versions of him (because, from the POV of anyone in 1931, the future isn't written yet)...he can choose to become either of them in the future, or he can choose a different path entirely...

    Ok, this is convincing but here's a question; at the end of BTTF1, What happens when LP Marty disappears in 1985 to go to 1955?

    In BTTF2 it is confirmed that there's only one younger Marty back in 1955. So younger TP and LP doesn't co-exist, but what happens? I can think of 3 cases.

    1-TP and LP somehow merges to form a slightly different Marty in 1955.
    2-TP Marty gets erased so now its LP Marty's job to get his parents back together, with slightly different actions.
    3-LP Marty is erased, he disappears in 1985 but never appears in 1955.

    The 3rd one is the easiest one for continuum to handle. Because new personality means events in 1955 would be different. So it would be much easier to just get rid of the new one and keep past as it is. Also if it was TP who gets erased in 1955 when LP arrives, it would have to be the case when LP gets back to 1985, TP Marty would be erased again and LP would take his place. Since such things don't happen, we can conclude that it is always the original one who remains. Other selves just follow his steps but disappear in the end.

    Also if it is not possible for them to follow the original traveller's steps, they simply disappear at the moment when they should be travelling as original did. This would explain why there isn't a new Marty in 1986 with Doc when he gets the Key. Since he had no reason, he probably got erased at the moment Marty went back to 1931 in EP1. This way past events are preserved and EP1 Marty survives. New Delorean created by this new Doc doesn't disappear according to this rule because what EP1 Marty travelled with was a duplicate, so Doc was able to come back with his Delorean.

    So now back to 3 Martys, let's suppose Marty-A is our original here. B and C can't decide to come earlier in their life spans compared to A, because they have to follow A's steps. They also can't decide to come after in their life spans compared to A, because when they reach the exact moment A decided to travel, they would have been erased like new Marty in 1986 did. Finally, they can't come when they reach the exact moment A decided to travel because then, they would succesfully disappear to 1986 in their own timelines but they would never appear in 1986. Instead they would get erased like LP Marty. So it would be A who gets survived.

    Hope I managed to explain clearly. What do you guys think about this?

  • Ending was done for the lulz. Nothing more.

  • Consider, Marty's original plan to erase the FCB timeline...he and FCB Doc were planning to go back to August 25th 1931...had they succeeded in arriving on that date, there would have been 2 Doc's and 2 Marty's present in 1931 Hill Valley...the 2 Marty's would have been the same individual at different points in his personal timeline...but the 2 Doc's would be different versions from different timelines altogether...Lone Pine/Eastwood Doc from the movies, and FCB Doc...it would have been possible for both to co-exist in 1931...


    Also about this regarding my previous post. In such case perhaps one of the Docs would get erased. It could be possible that the moment FCB arrives, LP Doc known as Carl Sagan would fade out since he no more exists. Or perhaps FCB would be erased since LP Doc is the original one compared to him and continuum tries to keep past as unaltered as it can. Either way, there would be 2 of the same Marty from different life spans and only one Doc, not 2 with different personalities.

    It is possible that they would co-exist. But then it is all thanks to Marty. Normally FCB would never be able to get to the past without a Delorean. So perhaps different personalities can co-exist but there should be another guy who helped them getting there. In this case, who created 3 different Martys? Because normally, B and C should have followed A's steps with slightly different actions but would just get erased in the end.

    Ending was done for the lulz. Nothing more.


    If this is the case TTG would gain so much hatred. Some fans already kinda hate TTG because they find this game unsatisfying. If they made an ending just for fun, when fans like to explain things in BTTF universe, it would not be fun really.

  • @WareKurt said: Also about this regarding my previous post. In such case perhaps one of the Docs would get erased. It could be possible that the moment FCB arrives, LP Doc known as Carl Sagan would fade out since he no more exists. Or perhaps FCB would be erased since LP Doc is the original one compared to him and continuum tries to keep past as unaltered as it can. Either way, there would be 2 of the same Marty from different life spans and only one Doc, not 2 with different personalities.

    It is possible that they would co-exist. But then it is all thanks to Marty. Normally FCB would never be able to get to the past without a Delorean. So perhaps different personalities can co-exist but there should be another guy who helped them getting there. In this case, who created 3 different Martys? Because normally, B and C should have followed A's steps with slightly different actions but would just get erased in the end.

    I don't see why 'Carl Sagan' LP Doc should be erased, just because his alternate self arrives. I think your confusing the TP Marty-LP Marty issue with this.

    The case of TP Marty and LP Marty is kinda different. In that case, TP Marty's actions result in the creation of LP Marty, who makes the SAME trip back to 1955 at the PRECISE same moment as TP Marty did. LP Marty's temporal displacement is just the LP version of the original temporal displacement by TP Marty.

    Whereas, in the case of LP Doc and FCB Doc, things are different. LP Doc and FCB would have made different time trips leading to their being present simultaneously in 1931. Therefore, they can co-exist. Of course, LP Doc is 'scheduled' to return to 1986 with Marty and be erased in the process.

  • I don't see why 'Carl Sagan' LP Doc should be erased, just because his alternate self arrives. I think your confusing the TP Marty-LP Marty issue with this.


    I am not saying it should be, but it is possible. Because past stays the same but when they travel to a time where CS is around, it becomes present then so maybe time ripple effect kicks in and erases the now non-existing LP Doc, even though he is scheduled to be erased later.

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