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Has FireFox. Doesn't see why it's great.

posted by Zeek on - last edited - Viewed by 280 users

I've been long overdue to get FireFox, but it became very apparent that the entire internet is against default browsers. There was even a study posted recently that claims if you use IE9, you're not as intelligent as those who use FireFox or Chrome. Surprisingly Safari users scored just above IE users in that study, too.

But you know what? I don't see why this browser is so great. I have the NoScript add-on for security reasons (recent hijacking... ON MY MAC!! :eek: ), and so far, I don't see what the big deal is.

After hearing about how great the browser is and I should have it and use nothing but it, I'm not seeing the benefits right now, let alone any improvements.

Mind telling me what you guys LIKE about the browser? Seriously, I'm posting this thread while on FireFox and I still don't see what's so great about it other than a yellow bar on the bottom that tells me it's blocking tracking ads from Google right now.

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  • @Falanca said: The reason why I'm NOT using IE is IE is very prone to anonymous toolbar downloads and spywares, also uses a big amount of memory space. After this point onwards I have the freedom of using any browser I want, and I chose Firefox. Its design is slick and it was first compatible with the very few amount of add-ons I use, so I never wanted to change to Chrome or Opera or anything else. People say Chrome is better because of less CPU usage or something but it's not like I'm always deeply running out of memory and CPU usage here.



    Wait? What? I've never had that happen with IE and I've been using it since XP days. I tried switching to Firefox but it just wasn't upto par, at least to me and was slower. I switched to Opera for a while but it was a massive resource hog due to a lot of bells and whistles they added. Plus I avoided Firefox like the plague after they had announced that early on some of their data leaks and dumps were "Features" not bugs. I heard they fixed some of them, but that was enough to put me off. Also, when making a website, making it for FireFox compatiable is the worst. I have to purposefully ruin how it looks in IE, Chrome, and Opera to make it work in Firefox. So now I just make it work good in Opera, which if it works good in Opera it works good in Chrome and IE aswell.

    Also, I hate how most Firefox users are elitist dicks.

  • @Elvenmonk said: Also, when making a website, making it for FireFox compatiable is the worst. I have to purposefully ruin how it looks in IE, Chrome, and Opera to make it work in Firefox. So now I just make it work good in Opera, which if it works good in Opera it works good in Chrome and IE aswell.



    Say what!? I'm not a web developer, but I've been making websites for years as front ends for some of the systems I'm developing, and in my experience IE is by far the worst browser to develop for, since they've deliberately chosen not to follow w3c standards, but instead make their own. Firefox mostly follows standards, but are very lax about them, so pretty much everything goes. When it comes to figuring out what's wrong if something doesn't look like it's supposed to, that's very easy with Firebug for Firefox. Opera has its own debugger which is very similar. IE has an extension you can download, but it's pretty much good for nothing. Whenever I run into a problem with IE, I use Opera's debugger to figure out what's wrong, since Opera is pretty strict, like IE, but unlike IE isn't a developer's nightmare.

  • Firefox is the browser of my choice, because in the past, Internet Explorer was a pain to use, especially for a developer. Internet Explorer 9 seems to be quite good, but there's no need to switch, as Firefox is still good for my needs.

    I have Chrome and IE installed too and I'm not a fan of Chrome, and I hate IE, for the above mentioned development reasons, and because whatever you do you need to add extra shenanigans to make it work in IE (although with IE9 it's become a lot better, good job MS).

    At this point, just use your browser of choice, they're all good.

  • I actually think the latest iteration of IE is pretty good, but it had a long history of suck. Not that I was ever going to use it anyway since i went straight from Netscape to Firefox.

  • @flesk said: Say what!? I'm not a web developer, but I've been making websites for years as front ends for some of the systems I'm developing, and in my experience IE is by far the worst browser to develop for, since they've deliberately chosen not to follow w3c standards, but instead make their own. Firefox mostly follows standards, but are very lax about them, so pretty much everything goes. When it comes to figuring out what's wrong if something doesn't look like it's supposed to, that's very easy with Firebug for Firefox. Opera has its own debugger which is very similar. IE has an extension you can download, but it's pretty much good for nothing. Whenever I run into a problem with IE, I use Opera's debugger to figure out what's wrong, since Opera is pretty strict, like IE, but unlike IE isn't a developer's nightmare.



    Really? I've always ran into the exact opposite. That's one of my main hatreds for Firefox was making it harder on me. IE's retardedly laxed nature I knew how to get aroudn easily without disrupting Opera's strict nature. But for some reason with Firefox tables could be collapsed, misaligned, or not even show at all.

    Oh IE9 made me switch back to IE, despite my hatred of it's URL bar/search bar. But I just grabbed the google tool bar to fix that. But what I hate most with IE 9 is it's compat. mode. When you make a website you can force IE9 into compat mode, so that way you're guranteed to have your site work. However a lot of websites have been making it so when viewed in compat. mode IE 9 is broken, then forces the users to use IE 9 compat. mode. So, I have to hit F12 switch it manually to IE 9 regular, or IE8,7,or 6 for the website to work properly. It's very annoying how many websites do that.

    I know for some weird reason Gmail does it, then it tells you to never use compat mode.

  • So for the techies here, any ideas how to get back the nifty "save pages when closing FF" feature 3.xx had? Can't find it in 4.0. Is it hidden? Did it return in 5.0 or 6.0 (whatever happened with updates anyway)?

    I kind of fear upgrading seeing how much I liked about FF got lost in the 3-4 update :(.

  • It's always been there, just named differently (I think). I'm using 6.0 myself and in the general tab on the options menu, the first option is about when Firefox starts and what you want it to do, either open home page, start with a blank page or open with windows and tabs from last time - this last option being the one you want.

  • Thanks. It was there indeed for 4 too. Still would have prefered the option "home page/last visited" instead of one of the two being forced upon you, but alas...

  • yeah, the internet is totally rad.

  • what? what does that have to do with anything?

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