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Making Elaine the Main Character for MI6

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Since the special ending after the credits of Tales of Monkey Island, I think it would be cool if Elaine became the main character in the next game. Morgan would make an interesting villain since she's in love with Guybrush and would probably stop at nothing to get him.
With Elaine as the new protagonist, players could see the game in her perspective as she gets a taste of what Guybrush does. Or Elaine and Guybrush could be switchable characters allowing for puzzles to be multi-layered and have more complex solutions. (Kind of like the beginning of Tales Chap 1 when Elaine uses the rope to let Guybrush across the mast to get to the other side of the ship.)

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  • @Grojak said: I personally got the feeling, that if and when there is a MI6, Morgan will be like LeChuck, but in the sense she will be after Guybrush the same way he's after Elaine. Tbh, it wouldn't surprise me if Morgan and LeChuck ended up working together to slit up Elaine and Guybrush.



    Yeah that would be a very interesting plot change for the MI series and even future game installments beyond Tales. I think having Morgan as a villain in general would be an exciting twist. And her personality is a lot different than LeChuck. I mean she's very blunt, whereas LeChuck plans out his schemes in every game. They would make a really evil team now that I think about it...

  • Elaine being the main character for a game would not work, since she does not have the same charisma as Guybrush, and writing funny/interesting dialogue and commentary would be a whole lot harder for her. Guybrush is the perfect playable character, as he's basically a vehicle for funny jabs, comments and one-liners. It's the character of Guybrush which breathes a whole lot of life into the Monkey Island world. Doing things from Elaine's perspective would not be as fun, as interesting or as effective.

    Elaine and Guybrush having children is a terrible idea, I think. For one thing, it's predictable and is an unimaginative direction to take the series. Also, it would restrict and tie down the series, to a degree, because it will bound two of the leading characters to a responsibility. And having the children be a 'mini-Guybrush' and a 'mini-Elaine' would just be incredibly corny and just downright inane.

    Having Morgan as a definitive villain would not work either, as it would defy a lot of her actions in the later chapters of 'Tales of Monkey Island'.

    Also, the best way to mix up the formula is simply to have a new villain. LeChuck's the reason why the series' main plot is becoming so repetitious. He's the reason why Elaine keeps getting kidnapped, he's the reason why Guybrush's main aim at the end of every game is to find a way to kill him (obviously), and he's the one who is constantly forcing the formula into a repetitive cycle. Yeah, we all love LeChuck, but it's time to keep him dead on this occasion, unless we all want to have the same core story and character motivation in the next game.

    The series needs to be refreshed in some way to prevent things from becoming stale, but new playable characters, change of allegiances, and the introduction of children into the story - these are not the ways to do it.

  • I still think that having Elaine as the main character, even for ONE episode, would still a nice and refreshing change. She may not be as funny or witty as Guybrush, and she probably won't be as funny and witty as Guybrush. That's not who she is, however I don't think her lack of humor should detract the idea that she can't be a playable character.

    As for Guybrush and Elaine having kids for a future game, I'm also not too fond of the idea; however, I'm still open to it. I mean as long as the kids aren't the center purpose of the adventure itself and they're at least integrated into the plot as not a factor that holds the characters back, then I would be fine with it.

    I completely agree with LeChuck being overdone as a villain. LeChuck is almost as synonymous as Bowser from Mario Bros or Gannon from Zelda. Monkey Island does need a new villain, and by the look of the last game, I think they may have one. I wouldn't mind having Morgan as a villain at all. She's essentially a female LeChuck!

    Anyways I understand that having Elaine as the main character of the series would be asking for too much, but having her as a playable character for an episode, or even just specific parts that need her would be a new and refreshing change.

  • lol maybe have Elaine of Guybrush turned into children...
    I imagine a scene in which adult Guybrush/Elaine has to collect/ manage 5-7 child versions of their partner due to a voodoo curse and the curse has each child being an aspect of the adult character... so we could explore the facetes of each character...

    imagine Guybrush having to deal with small 6 year old versions of Elaine that each focus on one character trait, the manipulator (Govenor), The Swashbuckler (Likes to fight alot), The Lovey Dovey, The Smart Arse...and each would have interesting Banter with the main Character and have to be used/'collected to solved the curse... could be fun.

  • @Lexxbomb said: lol maybe have Elaine of Guybrush turned into children...
    I imagine a scene in which adult Guybrush/Elaine has to collect/ manage 5-7 child versions of their partner due to a voodoo curse and the curse has each child being an aspect of the adult character... so we could explore the facetes of each character...

    imagine Guybrush having to deal with small 6 year old versions of Elaine that each focus on one character trait, the manipulator (Govenor), The Swashbuckler (Likes to fight alot), The Lovey Dovey, The Smart Arse...and each would have interesting Banter with the main Character and have to be used/'collected to solved the curse... could be fun.



    That actually sounds like a really humorous plot line! That way Elaine could be fleshed out better and there would be a reason to going through the Caribbean all over again. I don't know about the kids aspect of it; I mean if Elaine just broke up into 6 versions of herself, I would be fine with that.

    I was also thinking, what if Guybrush lost his memory accidentally and he's manipulated into believing that he's a villain and Elaine has to bring his memory back?

  • @Guinea said: I never liked adventure games where you have to switch character based on the story.
    Only as part of the gameplay, like in Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, or in the Goblins series. I liked all characters, and after all they're so similar it's like the same character anyway.

    But I hated to be forced to play whole chapters as Gina in Runaway, as Nico in Broken Sword and as Max in Secret Files: Tunguska. Heck I wasn't even a big fan of playing as Max in Sam & Max S3, but at least that part was short enough.
    A good adventure game main character is not easy to create, and having a game series with TWO main characters is in my experience impossible.



    It seems that we have opposite views about this issue. I haven't played Runaway, but I don't mind playing as Nico (I like both heroes) in BS games or Max (although Nina is my favourite of the two.) in SF series. Still best pair of heroes in adventure game history are Gabriel Knight and Grace Nakimura from GK2 and 3, because their different points of view serve the story and both are interesting characters. In GK3 Grace's Le Serpent Rouge -puzzle which lasted several chapters is one of the best ones in adventure game history.

    However when it comes to Monkey Island I can't see anyone except Guybrush as the main hero. Only thing which I would find acceptable is that you could switch between two characters to solve a single puzzle.

  • @AppDude27 said: That actually sounds like a really humorous plot line! That way Elaine could be fleshed out better and there would be a reason to going through the Caribbean all over again. I don't know about the kids aspect of it; I mean if Elaine just broke up into 6 versions of herself, I would be fine with that.



    THIS HERE telltale should be the next season of Monkey Island... get on it.:D

  • @Lexxbomb said: THIS HERE telltale should be the next season of Monkey Island... get on it.:D



    Haha, it DEFINITELY needs to be the next season of the Monkey Island game!! I would for sure buy this game!

  • Monkey Island without Guybrush Threepwood would be like Star Wars without Luke Skywalker, and we know how the prequels turned out.

  • Monkey Island without Guybrush Threepwood would be like Star Wars without Luke Skywalker, and we know how the prequels turned out.



    Hm... Nah, bad comparison. Case in point: Kyle Katarn, Mara Jade, Darth Revan, and some others kinda disagree with you :p

    And the reason why that's a bad comparison is because Star Wars is a universe that can live on by itself, so to speak, while Monkey Island universe pretty much revolves around Guybrush (so yeah, I do agree with you :p I just don't agree with the comparison you did), and there's not much to it once you take Guybrush out of the equation.

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