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***** was still alive!!!!!!! /SPOILERS

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So I was doing a second playthrough of Ep 2 last night and I noticed closely that Larry was still alive, he was talking in his breath before Kenny smashed his head and brains in.

Sorry if I'm late on this just noticed this!

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  • @GlockPants said: From The Walking Dead wiki page

    Larry was pretty full of life before he had his heart attack lol.

    I think we have to consider what we know from the game, though.

    I'm not sure when the teacher died in my game, but it certainly less than a minute from the time Katjaa called me over to the time that the Walker grabbed her. Lily was performing CPR on Larry, but for all we knew he was already dead, and the countdown had begun. So how long should we delay before we pass the point of no return?

  • @GlockPants said: Well, ok. But when the person in the truck bed changes, the physical change is very obvious. Larry looked like he wasn't a zombie. I don't think there is any evidence that could change my mind that Larry wasn't a zombie at the time of his skull crushing. I welcome anyone's input, but I just don't see how he was a zombie.

    The guy in the truck was left alone for a while, so we don't know at what point the appearance changes since he was already up and moving by the time we find out he has changed, only that it happens quick and that when they are fully mobile they look like that. I reckon the zombies breath or can breath as they make growling noises after all, and so Larry breathing could have been the first stage of zombification, perhaps followed by the change of appearance after his internals have undergone a change. Does either the comics or TV series ever show someone converting from living to death to undeath in full and is it consistent or whatever the hell they feel like at the time? Either way, it was deliberately left ambiguous so we're not really meant to know.

  • when you quote the wiki page you must remember it isn't kirkman or the devs writing it

  • He's dead now so it doesn't matter.

  • It matters. It was either murder or self-defence. Kenny was a... doodie head for doing what he did. All these people talking about a defibrillator restarting a heart have watched too much TV. I'm 90% sure that in real life, it's used for irregular heart beats, not non-existant ones.

    On a side note, if you swear in front of Clem in Ep 1, does she then swear in Ep 2?

  • yes she does and it's hilarious

  • @Sisterofshane said: If he had a severe enough heart attack that he was no longer breathing, we can assume he has no pulse. Otherwise, the chest compressions from CPR would have been useless.

    If the only thing that was wrong with him was that his heart beat was arrhythmic, then he would have eventually died anyway, because we didn't have a defribillator.

    Really??? So if one has no breathing, they therefore have no pulse??? I hope no one has a heart attack by you because you'll end up doing CPR on a person with a beating heart!

    Better re-take that CPR course cause you're supposed to check the ABC's: Airway, Breathing, Circulation. You most certainly can have a pulse but not have breathing.

  • @surculus vestri said: Really??? So if one has no breathing, they therefore have no pulse??? I hope no one has a heart attack by you because you'll end up doing CPR on a person with a beating heart!

    Better re-take that CPR course cause you're supposed to check the ABC's: Airway, Breathing, Circulation. You most certainly can have a pulse but not have breathing.

    Maybe I should have phrased it better, but the point was that the Chest compressions were useless if the man HAS a pulse. No one gives Larry mouth to mouth, which would have been the correct situation had Larry had a pulse but was not breathing. I'm assuming that Lily started chest compressions because he had no pulse.

    Besides, I believe I qualifying word in my statement was that if someone had a HEART ATTACK that severe... There are other situations in which a person may need CPR that doesn't necessarily start with CARDIAC ARREST. It's not unreasonable to assume that Larry has no pulse.

  • For those saying that CPR could not have brought him back, particularly because he wasn't breathing for a few seconds... that is false.

    Only several months ago a person close to me came under a cardiac arrest. She was unconscious, wasn't breathing and her eyes were glazed over. The only thing I could do were chest compressions and it was fortunate that I did because it brought her back and she resumed breathing and consciousness. I'm no doctor, but speaking from first hand experience I can only recommend that you do the same if you see someone under an attack like that.

    My point is, Lee doing heart compressions could may as well have brought him back- Larry's death was hardly definite enough for Kenny to kill him.

    I also advise you all that if you see someone fall unconscious and stop breathing- please don't just assume they're already dead. Some of the responses I'm seeing here are really disturbing...

  • @ronCYA said: For those saying that CPR could not have brought him back, particularly because he wasn't breathing for a few seconds... that is false.

    Only several months ago a person close to me came under a cardiac arrest. She was unconscious, wasn't breathing and her eyes were glazed over. The only thing I could do were chest compressions and it was fortunate that I did because it brought her back and she resumed breathing and consciousness. I'm no doctor, but speaking from first hand experience I can only recommend that you do the same if you see someone under an attack like that.

    My point is, Lee doing heart compressions could may as well have brought him back- Larry's death was hardly definite enough for Kenny to kill him.

    I also advise you all that if you see someone fall unconscious and stop breathing- please don't just assume they're already dead. Some of the responses I'm seeing here are really disturbing...

    It's a videogame set in a Zombie Apocalypse. I don't think anyone here IRL would just abandon people who are in need. I certainly don't fault Lily's character for trying to save her own father - in fact, I would have thought much. much less about her as a character if she hadn't fought tooth and nail to save his life.

    But, pragamatically (fully immersing ourselves in the setting)? Lily performs CPR for at least a full minute, and we are not even truly sure if Larry actually croaked or not. Every second we waste trying to save him gets us one second closer to having him turn on us (and, judging by how quickly the Band teacher turned, seconds are a precious commodity to waste).

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