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In your first playthrough did you...

posted by Sisterofshane on - last edited - Viewed by 1.5K users

...both chop off the teacher's leg, and side with Lilly in the meat locker? What were the exact circumstances behind each dilemma that you faced?

For an example, I will tell you what happened in MY first playthrough of episode 2. I didn't immediately chop off the teacher's leg. I first tried to hit the chain with the axe, and after that failed to do ANY visible damage, I then tried to pry open the trap by force. It was at this point Kenny said "Do something now or ..." (and I honestly don't remember EVERYTHING he said, because of the heat of the moment). At this point, I decided to chop off his leg. Three hits, leg was off, and I escaped with the teacher.

Fast forward to the meat locker, I chose to side with Kenny, for a multitude of reasons that would take TOO long to put here, but the least of which being that I felt that it was impossible to save Larry's life, and that every second exponentially increased the risk of him turning into a walker with us still trapped in the meat locker. Even then, I waited 'til the last possible second to finally click on Kenny.

I'm not going to include a poll, because I feel that is impossible to accurately capture EVERYONE'S specific reasoning behind their choices (not without using up the 50 option limit, anyway). With that said, please feel free to say WHY you did what you did, in both situations! I'm hoping to glean some insight on how morally consistent people are, and I think that these two situations are the closest I can get in game for comparison!

Also, please try to keep disagreements to a minimum - there are plenty of other threads in which already exist to argue about the finer parts of morality in the Walking Dead setting - all of which I would recommend if you are looking for a good time (or argument :D)! I'm really looking for more a statistical view of people, as opposed to WHY someone is right or wrong.

EDIT: Part 2, for those who chopped off the leg - did it occur to you that the teacher may die from blood loss later? Did it matter to you that he might have been dead either way?

Part 3 - What was your honest assessment at Larry's chance at life? If you had to give a percentage as to how sure you were that he could be revived, what would it be? Did that influence your decision to side with Lilly or not?

Part 4 - How many of you also gave Irene the gun in episode one? Explain why you did or did not allow her to kill herself.

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  • On my first playthrough I chopped off the leg and sided with Kenny in the meat locker.

    I cut the leg off immediately since I was certain it was the only way. I don't really see why we weren't given the option to cut down the tree though; then Lee, Kenny and Mark could just have carried the teacher, the trap and the chain into the camp. I'm sure they'd have found use for the chain in the fortification process as well.

    As to the meatlocker, I don't know how other people manage to bring up any positive feelings towards Lilly whatsoever. To me she's just completely unlikable and whiney, and the few times she's "showing her soft side" or being nice just seem utterly artificial, which caused me to discard them from my general view on her entirely. Occasionally I found her even worse than her dad.
    So yeah, I helped Kenny because I'm willing to do whatever it takes to piss Lilly off and, hopefully, speed up the ETA of her leaving the group. Apart from this I've so far always preferred Kenny's views on things, and in the meat locker he was making a lot more sense than Lilly as well.

  • I tried every possible alternative to cutting off the band teacher's leg, even took a few chops at the tree the chain was wrapped around. Mark saw me and said "What are you doing? Are you crazy, man?!". :D In the end I ran out of time and had to leave him behind.

    In the meat locker I sided with Lilly, didn't have the heart to kill her old man while she was begging me to help save him. My gut feeling was, there's a line to be drawn in killing the dead to protect the living. Once you start to blur it, pre-emptively killing a man you aren't sure is dead, it seems like a slippery slope.

    Funny thing is though, after Larry tried to kill me back in the drug store, I made a mental note that first chance I got, I'd take him out. It just didn't pan out that way.

  • I chopped his leg off. Don't remember if I really tried anything else first or just went straight for it. Sided with Lilly, don't know why. I knew Kenny was right. Probably because it's just a game and I don't think I'd ever done a nice thing for her before that.

  • First of all I must say that I play with selectables turned off. I tried to open the bear trap than I hit the chain with the axe but finally I chopped his leg off. I didn't even know I can hit the tree :D I think you can hit the chain with a stone as well. However it feels like cheating when you know where to click.
    In the meat locker I sided with Lilly because that was the human thing to do. I've always followed the logic of saving kids and women first. Lilly needed me and I helped without hesitating. I don't regret that choice at all.
    I must point out that before that I'd sided with Kenny most of the times although I stayed neutral when he was quarreling with Lilly. I wanted to keep the group stable. Despite my efforts he destroyed it because of his egocentrism and then he betrayed me. After saving and feeding his kid twice.
    Also, I need to point out that through the entire episode 2 I was trying and hoping to get along with Lilly and Larry. Although I failed, mainly because I told Mark that Larry thinks I'm dangerous and he told him, I managed to see Lilly's good side.
    Then after Kenny betrayed me I felt really bad for Lilly. I've been against her in order to support Kenny and he just left me for dead. So I felt I've been really mean to her and unlike Kenny, she doesn't deserve that. So I deleted all my saves and started from the beginning, remaking all good and bad choices but this time treating Kenny as he deserved. :) That's when I truly realized that Kenny seems like the right choice, but it is actually the easy choice. Lilly and Larry look bad but they've been doing tough choices from the very beginning and I respect both of them for that.

  • I will tell you what happened in MY first playthrough of episode 2. I immediately chopped off the teacher's leg because it felt inhumane to just leave him there to die by the zombies.. And I couldn't bare to shoot him (I think that was possible? :confused: ) So I chopped it off fast since there was no time and that chain wouldn't have broke from a axe since it didn't look rusty.

    Fast forward to the meat locker, I chose to side with Kenny because I didn't want a big .... huge zombie eating us all so I pulled Lilly away and well... Kenny dropped the saltlick on him and well.. I don't think Lilly belongs to the group and even tho Kenny changed I like him. :rolleyes:

  • @Saxin said: I will tell you what happened in MY first playthrough of episode 2. I immediately chopped off the teacher's leg because it felt inhumane to just leave him there to die by the zombies.. And I couldn't bare to shoot him (I think that was possible? :confused: )

    Pretty sure that wasn't a choice. You can either leave him to be mauled by the walkers or chop his leg off and have him turn into a walker later on (if you leave him in the woods you'll kill Travis instead and have him turn into a walker, so the decision doesn't seem to have a huge impact on the following events)

  • My first play I attempted to get the trap open by force, whacked the chain twice, and realized it wasn't even looked marred from my actions. Life experience told me that trying to hit a hard thing with the backing of dirt was a waste of time; it'll just get stuck in the dirt, not actually break. So, off his leg went.

    I thought it was pretty stupid of the teen who got sick to wander off and place his back to zombies considering we all had commented on their approach in a "hurry up and get out of here" kind of way. I'm glad he died; stupid and full of himself with his "my father is special forces" blah blah blah.

    And when it came to the Meat Locker? I sided with Kenny. Afterwards, I felt sick at all that transpired because of that choice. I regretted it. At the same time, I would honestly make the decision again. It was a hard choice, it was the correct choice for survival with the information I had. And there was the potential I murdered someone with a chance for life. That choice will linger. It will haunt me (Lee). And it should haunt him/me. It'll also haunt Kenny and he was 100% behind it. Kenny will always hate himself. He even keeps looking to Katjaa to see if she still loves what he's becoming. (After the Duck/Shawn choice, her look causes him to offer a ride to Macon. Also, in the store after he talks to you about the choice, there is a long glance between he and her. She knows what he's wrestling with and he is relieved to know she hasn't turned her back on him or judged him for his choices.)

    The rationalization and consolation he seeks from Lee for his decisions will always just be something that keeps him from putting a bullet in his own brain (second to a living family.) In a world where the apocalypse ended and normalcy returned, I can see Kenny becoming either a drunk or killing himself because his family is safe. I honestly do.

  • Hm.. ,phoray, that's an interesting thought. Haven't considered the idea that Kenny might commit suicide... No... shut up... you will make me feel sorry for him and he doesn't deserve my pity.

    "Think about Lilly... think about Lilly..."

  • lily's a bitch her voice annoys me she looks like she going insane in my flash of episode 3
    i sided with kenny on everything btw

  • @YamiRaziel said: Hm.. ,phoray, that's an interesting thought. Haven't considered the idea that Kenny might commit suicide... No... shut up... you will make me feel sorry for him and he doesn't deserve my pity.

    "Think about Lilly... think about Lilly..."

    He also sincerely apologizes to Lilly for what he "is about to do" so to speak. Some people would say sorry isn't enough, and it won't be to her. But he apologized before, not after, and his tone of voice was very sincere to me. And the look on his face after he does it, he seems to be shocked even at himself from his own actions. HE says/does these things whether your side with him or not. There's an inner battle in him, there, that is raging just as much in him as ourselves/Lee. He's far more complex a character than Lilly, although emotionally, I totally get her thoughts processes about the decision and for leaving me to die afterward on the fence. I wish the next episode would take that into account. Larry, apparently, never rethinks his humanity after that, totally rationalizing it and unapologetic. In epi 3, She should be shocked at her own feelings about leaving him to die if she were a complex enough character. Unfortunately, following this forum has told me about the show/comic book series and I worry she'll be going poof soon.

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