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Bags of Hammers The Duck Support Group

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OK its high time Duck gets his own support group! I mean surely I'm not the only one who thinks Duck is awesome and should live..am I?

Duck seems to me like the kind of kid who may be a card short of a full deck but has a heart of gold. I'd like to see Clem take him under her wing so to speak. Clem should protect Duck and teach him things ya know, kinda like a big sister would do!:D

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  • @Death689God said: Considering the character is a Game Character, I don't see the issue. I thought blowing Tenpenny of his tower with a land mine in Fallout 3 was hilarious. (Bastard had it coming more than Duck of course.)

    It's not me first, it's Clementine First, then the Group. While, yes, the Potential threat is in all of them, this contributes to my priority list. But while others, such as Kenny, Lilly, (formerly)Larry, etc, pose a potential risk... They still have uses. (Even Larry DOES try to save you if you give him the Axe, despite all of the BS) Kenny went Hunting, Lilly's holding down the Fort like it's Nox. But Duck just eats, poops, sleeps, and gets people pinned under tractors. (So far). If that changes, sure, I'll relent to you that your point was valid and that I was to cruel to the kid...
    But that remains to be seen.

    I get that, as a woman, you're more inclined to protect Duck despite his uselessness. But as a Man, I'm more inclined to keep the group safe for the sake of my own. (In this case Clem-Clem. I play my Canon (First play through) Lee as if he'd have opted out w/o Clem to take care of.)

    First of all, you play the gender card? Really? Yes, being a PARENT gives me more of an attachment to children, but it has nothing to do with my GENDER. Children are important for the survival of the species - apart from having my own, the most I can do is to help the ones that already exist survive into adulthood (it'll be up to Duck to impress a girl enough to actually mate with him, but that's not my decision to make). If we cannot even hold CHILDREN sacred above all else, and turn everything into a number, a statistic, placing survival above all else, then I frankly wouldn't want to live on this planet anymore. So, way to regress philosophical/moral progress back down to a level even some ANIMALS don't resort to.

    Second, as to the underlined comment, this is the exact point everyone is trying to convey to you - IT'S A GAME. There is no need to go around calling people borderline pedos anymore than we should call you a child murderer. That was my original point - a satirical view on the judgement you passed onto US over a video game.

  • I try to play the game and react like I think I would in a real life disaster. That means the kids come first (regardless of IQ) Elderly second ( thats why I fed Larry at the Motor Inn) and last but definitely not least the women, remember adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it!:D

  • @Sisterofshane said: First of all, you play the gender card? Really? Yes, being a PARENT gives me more of an attachment to children, but it has nothing to do with my GENDER. Children are important for the survival of the species - apart from having my own, the most I can do is to help the ones that already exist survive into adulthood (it'll be up to Duck to impress a girl enough to actually mate with him, but that's not my decision to make). If we cannot even hold CHILDREN sacred above all else, and turn everything into a number, a statistic, placing survival above all else, then I frankly wouldn't want to live on this planet anymore. So, way to regress philosophical/moral progress back down to a level even some ANIMALS don't resort to.

    Second, as to the underlined comment, this is the exact point everyone is trying to convey to you - IT'S A GAME. There is no need to go around calling people borderline pedos anymore than we should call you a child murderer. That was my original point - a satirical view on the judgement you passed onto US over a video game.

    The fact you're a woman is a factor, you're biologically wired differently. Personally, I treat Clem like a real daughter. (Always wanted one, she's just like I'd want my daughter to be) Which is, actually, another reason I have Duck so low on my priorities. Let's face it, if they reach that age It's her and Duck... Duck is NOT going to "Mate" with Clem-Clem, in the words of TV Hershel "no man's good enough for your daughter, until they are". Duck's not there yet, not by a long shot. Better he be offed and we find Clem-Clem a new playmate.

    Sorry, but killing a kid is more along the lines of killing in general. The Child Worship stuff it is Pedo like, it makes me nervous because (even if it is a game) that sort of fascination with a child can't be healthy. Especially if you consider most of these people are men... I get that it's best Pedophiles fantasize about cartoon drawings and animated kids rather than victimize real children, but Clem and Duck have voice actors it's.. Just not right.

    Maybe half, or (and I'm in a really optimistic mood right now) most of them aren't Paedos... But if you don't think a good portion of them aren't, just trying to blend in with this fan club crap then...
    Besides, does it strike no one odd that the Kenny, Carly, Doug, Lilly groups aren't as vocal or memetastic?.. It just doesn't feel right.

  • @ozzmann said: I try to play the game and react like I think I would in a real life disaster. That means the kids come first (regardless of IQ) Elderly second ( thats why I fed Larry at the Motor Inn) and last but definitely not least the women, remember adversity doesn't build character, it reveals it!:D

    Here's my approach: (Repost from another thread)

    Put the group first. (Except when it comes to Clementine.) What this means is making logical choices that increase the survivability of the Group. Even if that means being "monsters that came out of the woods" to ruin some other persons life. (Final hard choice of episode 2) However, my Lee remembers the reason the group matters to him: Clementine.

    Prioritize the Women. In the long term, if Humanity is to survive, it will need future generations. And it'll come faster, and safer if there are more women to men. With complications that come with child birth, death of the mother during labor is a realistic problem. The more women, the safer and more secure the future of your Tribe, so to speak.

    Prioritize the Useful. If you're going to survive in this world, you need to make sure to take care of the more reliable, courageous, and skilled members of your group. (Which is the biggest issue my Character has with Kenny. He's only reliable if he's attached to you somehow... It's also my characters problem with his Son and Larry, Duck got Shane Killed by being Stupid and Larry tried to kill you.)

    Keep the Peace when possible. Try reasoning and Diplomacy when possible, when it comes to interactions among your group at least. Reserve drastic measures for last, or when it will be more detrimental to the group to "Sit on the Fence".

    DO NOT KILL YOUR OWN! This is something my Lee's only added after the events on the Dairy Farm... He tried to save Larry, a man he thinks the group would be better off without, because of it. And I was quick enough to see Larry start to come back to us, just before Kenny dropped the salt lick, firmly planting this idea in his mind.

    Remove Outside Threats. Jolene, The Brothers and their Momma, any Bandits that come along down the road... This is for them, this keeps the group safe. Even if it's hard to do with Clementine watching (Danny), even if you feel Pity (Andy after telling him his brother and mother are dead) or Sympathy (Jolene and what happened to her and her daughter.)

    Honesty Policy. Like Hershel said, we're relying on the honesty of others now. There's no more room for secrets, or BSing, be as honest as the game will allow. A true man Says what he Means and Means what he Says.

  • @Death689God said: The fact you're a woman is a factor, you're biologically wired differently. Personally, I treat Clem like a real daughter. (Always wanted one, she's just like I'd want my daughter to be) Which is, actually, another reason I have Duck so low on my priorities. Let's face it, if they reach that age It's her and Duck... Duck is NOT going to "Mate" with Clem-Clem, in the words of TV Hershel "no man's good enough for your daughter, until they are". Duck's not there yet, not by a long shot. Better he be offed and we find Clem-Clem a new playmate.

    Sorry, but killing a kid is more along the lines of killing in general. The Child Worship stuff it is Pedo like, it makes me nervous because (even if it is a game) that sort of fascination with a child can't be healthy. Especially if you consider most of these people are men... I get that it's best Pedophiles fantasize about cartoon drawings and animated kids rather than victimize real children, but Clem and Duck have voice actors it's.. Just not right.

    Maybe half, or (and I'm in a really optimistic mood right now) most of them aren't Paedos... But if you don't think a good portion of them aren't, just trying to blend in with this fan club crap then...
    Besides, does it strike no one odd that the Kenny, Carly, Doug, Lilly groups aren't as vocal or memetastic?.. It just doesn't feel right.

    I count both as equally bad - doing HARM to a child is bad, no matter what type of harm it is.

    And I seriously hope people are reading what you say - half the people here are pedophiles? Really? Just like I'm sure most of the people who read Twilight are either necrophiliacs or into bestiality, depending upon whether you side with "Team Edward" or "Team Jacob".

  • @Sisterofshane said: I count both as equally bad - doing HARM to a child is bad, no matter what type of harm it is.

    And I seriously hope people are reading what you say - half the people here are pedophiles? Really? Just like I'm sure most of the people who read Twilight are either necrophiliacs or into bestiality, depending upon whether you side with "Team Edward" or "Team Jacob".


    Trust me, beating a child senseless is worse than spanking it, and killing a child is worse than beating the crap out of it, and Raping a child is worse than Killing it.

    Technically it'd be Vampiphiles and Lycaniphiles, but yeah. I'm saying a lot of them probably are, because there are a lot more of them out there than people think and this IS the internet as well.

  • @Death689God said: Trust me, beating a child senseless is worse than spanking it, and killing a child is worse than beating the crap out of it, and Raping a child is worse than Killing it.

    Technically it'd be Vampiphiles and Lycaniphiles, but yeah. I'm saying a lot of them probably are, because there are a lot more of them out there than people think and this IS the internet as well.

    And getting on the internet calling people "creepy" does what, exactly to stop pedophiles?

    Besides, "harm" is "harm", no matter what you call it. Sure, leaving a person alive to then cope with the trauma is bad, but you cannot honestly be justifying your "homicidal tendency" towards Duck as NOT being worse than the people here who are DEFENDING HIM against people who are thinking just like you?

    I think this conversation is over.

  • Come on dude no reason to call names now. I think I can speak for most of us when I say the kids are not worshiped at all. As I said b4 its for fun only. To be honest, I feel a bit of an emotional attachment to most of the characters in TWD and quite frankly thats a testament to the game writers/designers.
    Like a well written book,movie or in this case game the author wants to create that attachment. If you feel for the characters then you will keep watching/reading/playing and that is the ultimate goal.:D

  • @Sisterofshane said: And getting on the internet calling people "creepy" does what, exactly to stop pedophiles?

    Besides, "harm" is "harm", no matter what you call it. Sure, leaving a person alive to then cope with the trauma is bad, but you cannot honestly be justifying your "homicidal tendency" towards Duck as NOT being worse than the people here who are DEFENDING HIM against people who are thinking just like you?

    I think this conversation is over.

    Nothing, just let's them know you see them for that they are.

    You're right, they do have to cope, even as they turn 20. It messes with the chemicals in a kids head, it desensitizes them to things and makes the cold. Angry, sometimes with Suicidal and Homicidal Tendencies well into their later life.
    What makes it worse is I'm laying plans out for a Game, with the idea of long term survival in mind. What I'm doing is something that comes from cold, remorseless logic. But if there is a Pedo in one of these "support groups", they're here because they have some sick impulses that no doubt carry over into real life.

    It's over when one of us stops replying I suppose.

    @Sisterofshane said: Come on dude no reason to call names now. I think I can speak for most of us when I say the kids are not worshiped at all. As I said b4 its for fun only. To be honest, I feel a bit of an emotional attachment to most of the characters in TWD and quite frankly thats a testament to the game writers/designers.
    Like a well written book,movie or in this case game the author wants to create that attachment. If you feel for the characters then you will keep watching/reading/playing and that is the ultimate goal.:D

    Maybe for you that's how it is... But I'm really not that trusting of people. there are a WHOLE lot more of them out there than people like to admit. Just like there are a lot more, just general sex offenders out there than people would like to accept... This world is a messed up place, and the internet is where people show their most messed up sides. So it wouldn't surprise me at all. Sad, but...

  • Man I don't give a fuck what you people who read too much into things think. calling Clementine Queen Clem and Duck King Duck is a fun little game. Go to Oranges and Lemons and read the list of rules. More then half are Red Dwarf and Doctor Who Jokes. Why don't you follow the old rule of thumb "Just repeat to yourself it's just a game you should really just relax" Clementines a well written interesting character We don't go to greenland with a submarine looking for rapture to rescue little sisters. We need something to joke about and a pretend society ruled by Clementine and/or Duck seemed as good as topic as any. Especially when you consider that the only other people posting as often as the K.I.Q.C.S. {which is an Acronym I took from rock band K.I.S.S.] Are people who turn simple disagreements over kenny and lily into blood feuds.

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