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Meat Locker Dilemma

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I, like most players, initially sided with Lilly in trying to resuscitate Larry. In retrospect, I may have made the wrong call.

Initially, I understood Kenny’s concern about zombie Larry, but back at the motor inn, the injured body brought in did not turn undead until several minutes later. I thought I had time to save Larry. If I couldn’t save him in say, two minutes, then I would advocate using the salt lick to crush his skull, but Kenny made a rushed judgment.

However, I may have been wrong. The injured body was being treated by Katjaa. She could have prolonged the person’s life. So instead of minutes of trying to resuscitate Larry, I could have had only seconds.

I thought if Larry turned zombie that we would notice, but when Katjaa was attacked, she didn’t say afterward that the skin around his eyeballs suddenly darkened, so he looked undead. The injured body became undead without Katjaa noticing despite her close examination of him.

Assume for the sake of argument, that the injured body, was untreated by Katjaa, and became undead in two minutes.

Does that mean everyone becomes undead in two minutes? Not necessarily. That could be the minimum time or maximum time for the dead-to-undead process to occur. You don’t know. With that uncertainty, do you risk trying to resuscitate Larry? I reluctantly conclude Kenny made the right decision.

I could still be wrong because I am overlooking an important factor. If so, tell me.

Two unrelated points:

1. I will play the campaign with my initial decision of siding with Lilly.

2. Kenny is hard to please. I redid Episode 1 and Episode 2 to closer ally myself with Kenny, except for the meat locker dilemma. I helped rescue Duck, sided with Kenny in the pharmacy, gave Duck a snack, supported Kenny’s boat plan, fed both Duck and Kenny at the motor inn, and mostly agreed with him on everything else, except the argument about Lilly being a dictator (that was exaggerated and I think she was right about being called a Nazi when survival became tougher). When walking to the abandoned car, I gave him the gentlest response: he fractured the group. Despite my near constant agreement with him, in the Long Road Ahead preview, he says I never listened to him. I don’t hate Kenny, but if all my prior support isn’t reciprocated in Episode 3, I may dump him as an ally.

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  • I have never heard of CPR resuscitating a person whose heart has stopped. You need defibrillators, nurses, cardiac drugs and all the emergency equipment, as well as an ICU to give the patient a fighting chance.

    The only thing that CPR does is that it keeps oxygenated blood flowing to the brain to prevent brain death until emergency medical care is available. So, in theory, Larry was not dead. He could be kept alive as long as someone did CPR on him. In theory.

    I helped Lilly because I refuse to give up on our own, even though Larry was a weak link. Now, in fact, I will support Lilly as the leader as her Achilles Heel is no longer a problem and she has no more reasons for favoritism. Kenny would sacrifice the entire group for his family and in my book that disqualifies him for leadership.

  • i was a st johns amubulance cadet/first aider so yes i have done cpr/abc

    which can revive people but as chaz says it keeps the person 'alive' till the professionals turn up..

    and the dummies i practised on do move ;)

    also to take this topic in a new direction larry could be considered akin to schroedingers cat in the box...

  • one of two things would happen if kenny haven't killed Larry

    1-He would be alive and saying something bad about you and everyone else.
    2-He would have become a zombie and you would have to deal with him.

    either way...doesn't matter know, the damage is done.
    Many people posted that he would not be able to live again without medical equipment(aka...defibrilator)
    but thats the point...I don't know that.Lee didn't know that and neither did Kenny...maybe lilly did because of her past and all... Even if is certain that he would die, what kenny did is not gonna be forgotten by anyone...

    what im saying is...the problem is not hat happened, is what will happen from now on.

    Edit: "schroedingers cat in the box..." that's pretty much sums it up

  • @Master of Aeons said: They confirmed that it was meant to be ambiguous.

    I don't know anything about CPR, but I've worked with corpses (long story). I don't think his ragdolling should have been as intense as Milo implies. Maybe a living person will jerk when you shove their diaphragm, but I don't think there was much going on in Larry at the time.

    Unless Milo has resuscitated people before, living and dead, then this is all MOOT as fuck.

    If you are giving someone CPR properly, you should break their ribs under the pressure, it also has a terrible survival rate, I was told this on a CPR course by a major in the royal marines. Larry was out of luck.

  • @ommmnomnomnom said: If you are giving someone CPR properly, you should break their ribs under the pressure, it also has a terrible survival rate, I was told this on a CPR course by a major in the royal marines. Larry was out of luck.

    yes it can crack/break ribs but it can save people/help preserve life.

    royal marines in a combat situation when a person is down/out has a bullet wound or just blown up...yeah there are other factors that decrease survival...if they are bleeding alot cpr isn't going to work.

    larry was intact he had a chance..

  • I tried to revive Larry, but as soon as I saw him move his lips that would have been it for me: if he wasn't showing other signs of life I would have killed him myself.

    Honestly, he was liability with his chronic heart condition and age. He could go at anytime so he was always dangerous. What if he died in the night? Sooner or later I would want to distance myself from him anyway.

  • @Milosuperspesh said: nope he doesn't!!
    if a ttg person confirms it then i'll shut up but till then your all crazy..

    i remember destructoid streaming live a Walking dead ep 2 walkthrough a while ago with some telltale staff members, and they confirmed that the last "movement" was there intentionally to make you notice that larry was alive or coming back to life.

  • The reason why the band teacher became a zombie...i believe is because Lee's AXE has been used to kill zombies...which equals to dirty, full of zombie bacteria axe. In this case he used that infected axe on the teacher's leg....leading to infect him in the process. That's what i believe....i could be wrong

  • @Milosuperspesh said: yes it can crack/break ribs but it can save people/help preserve life.

    royal marines in a combat situation when a person is down/out has a bullet wound or just blown up...yeah there are other factors that decrease survival...if they are bleeding alot cpr isn't going to work.

    larry was intact he had a chance..


    If you don't break the ribs you aren't pressing down on the ol ticker, and he meant in everyday situations its pretty poor, in combat forget it lol but you're supposed to keep doing it until paramedics get to the scene with defibrillators, CPR is like a manual version of those to get back into the correct circadian rhythm or restart the heart. I tried to help even though I only got to 4, if I have the chance to saltlick kenny, justice will be done...I don't even know which is my original save anymore ive done pretty much everyangle!?

  • @kingmartykim said: The reason why the band teacher became a zombie...i believe is because Lee's AXE has been used to kill zombies...which equals to dirty, full of zombie bacteria axe. In this case he used that infected axe on the teacher's leg....leading to infect him in the process. That's what i believe....i could be wrong

    Doesn't touching exposed flesh with zombie flesh heighten and quicken the risk for infection?

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