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Larry - a better understanding

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When I come to play Episode 2, no matter what I will try to save Larry.
Not just for the sake of my secret, but for another reason...

When I began working retail, I was partnered with an elderly man named Don, a Vietnam war vet and a diabetic. The team leaders paired us cause we were a lot alike; not very social and we kept to ourselves. At times, I got angry with him cause no matter how hard I tried to fill the sales floor, Don believed I could do better. Yet, dispite the pain from being diabetic, we had a friendship, give or take.

Then one day, he passed away. That was a year ago. A man with whom I've worked with for about seven years was gone. It hit me very hard, in all the time I knew him I was angry with him. I didn't even get a chance to say goodbye. When I returned to work, they told me he passed peacefully in his sleep.

Back to the game, I agree Larry was a bit of a hardass jerk and rude but Larry's grumpy temperment almost reminded me of my team mate.
There's a choice that suggests you can talk to Lily about her father. I found it on Youtube from a playthrough by MilanRE

It's as follow's word for word where Lee talks to Lily in private.

Lee: It's been three months, your dad still treats me like I'm some kind of asshole.

Lily: Yeah, well, don't expect that to change. That's just how he is.

Lee: Does he treat you like that too?

Lily: Look. My dad can be an ass sometimes, I know that. But he's not a bad guy. He just...He's got a lot of pain. He's been through so much. And lost...pretty much everything. And it's hardened him, ya know? Yeah, he's bitter and hateful, but that's all just to protect himself. And me.
All he's got left in the world is me. And that goes both ways. So, yeah, he's probably gonna keep treating you like crap, but that's just because he still has one thing left to care about. So don't judge him. And don't judge me for sticking by him. He's my dad, and I love him.

When I do a walkthrough, this scene is a keeper for me;)

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  • Larry and Brenda: When the bear is hungry, he will eat.

  • Imo larry was good, I believe his personality is just do/say what he feals think about it later. He tries to save you if you give him the axe. He could of not.

  • @ruairi46 said: He tries to save you if you give him the axe.

    Yes, but only because his daughter is watching that time.

  • Actually, just to back this guy up.
    Larry might seem like an ass at times, but he's actually one of the character who truly displays the personality of an actual survivor trying to survive in the real world.

    This, I can tell you.
    I know how much everyone hates Larry for all the things you've done.
    But frankly, if you tried to be nice to Larry, you'd actually find that he's got a bit of rationality when he talks like mentioning how he gets cranky when he gets no rations at all.
    All the time, he's been trying very hard to suppress his anger, plus who would actually deliberately cause their own heart attack to occur again ? That's just crazy.

    Whatever he does at the very end prior to his death was aimed at ensuring Lilly gets all the care and privilege that she needs. And that's why I honestly don't blame him for acting that way.

    Either way, people can boo at me for taking sides with Larry, no matter what we do, that man is destined to die at Chapter 2, so the very least we can do is give the character some understanding and empathy.

  • @Clippersfan86 said: There is no better understanding. If you're talking about a realistic scenario this douche cheapshotted you, almost getting you killed DESPITE you going out of your way to get him pills and save his life. I helped Larry kill him and didn't even think twice about it. He's a danger to Clementine, Lee and quite frankly anybody besides his daughter. Too much of a loose cannon.

    It's unlikely Larry even knew you got him his pills at the time, the guy was pretty much semi-conscious the whole time right up until it was time to evacuate the Drug Store.

    There's also the fact he knows Lee's a convicted murderer (who just happens to not be in prison). Most of us would probably hesitate to trust a guy convicted of theft around our valuables, trusting a convicted murderer around our family? No thank you.

    Hell, Kenny's a bigger danger to the group. Freezes on Hershel's farm (thereby allowing Shawn to get eaten), ran over people that were asking for help by Katjaa's account, shouts to strangers in a city that obviously went down the crapper, doesn't help the rest of the group in camp (he's the only "man" in the group that won't help Lee with the pickup walker), etc.

  • I seem to remember when Lee was talking to Lily in the drug store; Lee mentioned her dad having a temper and Larry said "Ah, F*** you" and Lily said "He doesn't mean it". So as of that I am willing to believe that Larry was fully aware of everything around him.

    As for the whole convicted killer thing, Lee had been nothing but helpful and diplomatic towards pretty much everyone in the group, he is actively looking out for Clem, he helps with the hunting, pretty much Lee does any job that needs to be done. I would be more then willing to give him the benefit of the doubt taking into account all he has done.

    And from what I gathered in Katjaa's account, Kenny ran over walkers not living people. And I can understand Kennys position, I might not agree with it but if I had a wife and son to look out for I would place their safety first and considering the hell that Atlanta was in, his willingness to keep driving probably saved their lives. On the farm, Kenny's focus was on Duck, yeah he froze and I do consider that a strike against him, but he is only human.

  • i think if larry played the walking dead, he would kill larry.
    i think if he had been dying slowly (bite/bleeding) he would have asked to be killed to not endanger his daughter, i might have felt bad about it if he was the type of guy that would beg for his life for the chance he might be immune or something, but larry made it clear that lee should not do anything that would risk lilly or Clementine's life, and i think letting a massive guy turn into a zombie in a locked room with lilly and Clementine would be something larry would not want to happen

  • @thestalkinghead said: i think if larry played the walking dead, he would kill larry.
    i think if he had been dying slowly (bite/bleeding) he would have asked to be killed to not endanger his daughter, i might have felt bad about it if he was the type of guy that would beg for his life for the chance he might be immune or something, but larry made it clear that lee should not do anything that would risk lilly or Clementine's life, and i think letting a massive guy turn into a zombie in a locked room with lilly and Clementine would be something larry would not want to happen

    Great point!

    As much as I disliked Larry, I think your spot on that he would have said "just shoot me" if he'd been bitten rather than risk turning into a walker and endanger his daughter.

    However, I personally took the meat locker opportunity to kill Larry first chance I got mostly based on the incident in the pharmacy when he punched Lee and left him for the walkers. Larry attempted to kill Lee.. I wasnt going to wait around and give him a second chance to do it again!

    I would even consider Lee being a convicted murderer as trivial during a zombie apocalypse.. As Lily said, "that's a skill that could come in handy" and so far, Lee has been as trusting, diplomatic and helpful to the group as possible!

    As we are limited in our choices by TellTales story-line, we only have certain options to choose from. We have Clem to look out for and are kinda forced to make decisions based more on a moral viewpoint having Clem right there watching and questioning our decisions. If I didnt have to consider Clem, I myself would play Lee as much more ruthless and unforgiving. We have a world full of zombies trying to eat us, this is not the time to hesitate and decide what or what not to do based on if a little girl will think bad of me.

    Sorry Clem you had to see me smash Larry's head with a salt lick, but the rest of us are alive because of it!

  • I had to save Larry because Clem couldn't see me as a Murderer.
    Also at the end of trying to save him you can see that he is beginning to breath or even talk (well muttering) proving that if it wasn't for kenny he could have lived.
    Larry tried to kill me but failed
    I tried to Save Larry but failed
    Kenny tried to kill Larry but Succeeded
    I wish I could have saved Larry but we almost did and to be honest I'm not sure if we failed to save Larry only that Kenny killed Larry before we could prove that we had saved him

  • @alithanar8 said: the first major reason was the fact that in Ep 1: HE. PUNCHED. ME. AND. LEFT. ME. TO. DIE!

    First of all, learn how not to hold grudges, it doesn't take a Month for someone to change their views on you, larry wasn't going to try to kill Lee again else he would have when he had the axe right there on the teacher, Did you see him swing down on you or was it just the zombie? and considering noone even knew bites weren't needed I say that's a pretty big deal that Larry didn't try to axe you in fear of you being bitten, kind of shows how he didn't Want to kill you anymore, and him saying he would OUTLIVE you implies he wouldn't too, And the majority of the time he doesn't treat everyone else quiet how he treats you, despite wanting to throw Duck out I don't think he would treat duck any worse than he treats Clementine, its a shame Larry is gone he was a very good character but with such big hate against him they must have really wanted him gone.

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