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[SPOILERS from page 3]Logic says the Doug/Carly Will Die in Ep 3

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Since you chose to save one or the other in ep 1, then they are both expendable. It wouldn't make sense to build the complete story around which one you chose. I'm betting that whoever you saved in ep 1 will die in ep 3. Neither can be a main player.

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  • Most decisions don't make a real long term impact other than views so I hope they keep doug alive(for me) just because so far it is the only choice that has really made a big impact

  • @Ja1862 said: Very true a smart person can tell by ep2 that the choice thing is bs, the story pans out exactly the same way just with tiny little dialogue changes.

    There is no real choice, they didn't kill Doug/Carly in ep2 because people would be like "What was the point of that choice" so they kept them around but made sure they hardly appeared, hoping people wouldn't be able to tell that they do basically the same thing. Just with different weapons. So they just created Mark (a random guy) to fit their spot.

    Now killing them in ep3 makes it look like the choice you made was actually important (or so they think), players are not idiots any person with sense can tell the point was ridiculous since it hasn't/wont play a major part in the story.

    Come ep3 the choices will still be the same, nothing changes at all apart from tiny dialogue pieces.

    Examples

    Leave night/day - nothing happens that changes the story just a tiny different cut scene.

    Save Shaun - Dies either way.

    Kick duck out - Just one tiny bit of dialogue by Kenny in ep2 doesn't change the story one bit, he will say the same stuff he normally does to keep the story moving.

    Save Doug or Carly - both do the exact same thing in ep2 just with different weapons and are hardly in it.

    Cut teachers leg of - either way the story pans out exactly the scene apart from the opening cut scene.

    Save Larry - Dies either way

    Kill the St. John brothers - you can count on everything being the same, maybe just someone saying remember when you killed those guys etc.

    Kenny/Lilly - nothing will change, the story will just branch out the same.

    This = Choices being pointless, it pretends to be something it's not but any smart person who does a 2nd play through can tell how meaningless they really are. To get real choice within a story they would need to be better developers/bigger team and more time.

    The way things are looking for the new Walking Dead game it sounds like that will actually have more choice as you choose to team up with people or kill them, that rite there is more choice then what we are actually given within this game.



    we are just hoping that there will be more change as it goes on, i don't know why buy you saying a smart person can tell there is no difference made me laugh, i think you may be giving yourself to much credit, it obvious if you just play it more than once, maybe a stupid person wouldn't notice but you don't have to be particularly smart to tell its the same :)

  • @thestalkinghead said: we are just hoping that there will be more change as it goes on, i don't know why buy you saying a smart person can tell there is no difference made me laugh, i think you may be giving yourself to much credit, it obvious if you just play it more than once, maybe a stupid person wouldn't notice but you don't have to be particularly smart to tell its the same :)



    Most games choices don't really change anything
    Example: Skyrim Civil war

  • @thestalkinghead said: we are just hoping that there will be more change as it goes on, i don't know why buy you saying a smart person can tell there is no difference made me laugh, i think you may be giving yourself to much credit, it obvious if you just play it more than once, maybe a stupid person wouldn't notice but you don't have to be particularly smart to tell its the same :)



    I've seen a few people on here talk about the choices actually changing the game, lol they are the stupid people.

  • @Hudomonkey said: Most games choices don't really change anything
    Example: Skyrim Civil war



    does anybody say how great that is?

  • @Ja1862 said: Very true a smart person can tell by ep2 that the choice thing is bs, the story pans out exactly the same way just with tiny little dialogue changes.

    There is no real choice, they didn't kill Doug/Carly in ep2 because people would be like "What was the point of that choice" so they kept them around but made sure they hardly appeared, hoping people wouldn't be able to tell that they do basically the same thing. Just with different weapons. So they just created Mark (a random guy) to fit their spot.

    Now killing them in ep3 makes it look like the choice you made was actually important (or so they think), players are not idiots any person with sense can tell the point was ridiculous since it hasn't/wont play a major part in the story.

    Come ep3 the choices will still be the same, nothing changes at all apart from tiny dialogue pieces.

    Examples

    Leave night/day - nothing happens that changes the story just a tiny different cut scene.

    Save Shaun - Dies either way.

    Kick duck out - Just one tiny bit of dialogue by Kenny in ep2 doesn't change the story one bit, he will say the same stuff he normally does to keep the story moving.

    Save Doug or Carly - both do the exact same thing in ep2 just with different weapons and are hardly in it.

    Cut teachers leg of - either way the story pans out exactly the scene apart from the opening cut scene.

    Save Larry - Dies either way

    Kill the St. John brothers - you can count on everything being the same, maybe just someone saying remember when you killed those guys etc.

    Kenny/Lilly - nothing will change, the story will just branch out the same.

    This = Choices being pointless, it pretends to be something it's not but any smart person who does a 2nd play through can tell how meaningless they really are. To get real choice within a story they would need to be better developers/bigger team and more time.

    The way things are looking for the new Walking Dead game it sounds like that will actually have more choice as you choose to team up with people or kill them, that rite there is more choice then what we are actually given within this game.



    I think it's pretty evident that everyone will follow the same story arc with minor (likely only cosmetic/dialogue) choice changes sprinkled in.

    It's not like Episode 3 is "Long road ahead/Short road nowhere" based on choice. Think about how much the story would branch with even only 2 story line choices for every episode over 5 episodes.
    They're aiming for a monthly release (and already missing, on a monthly basis), that amount of extra work would make this MUCH longer than it's already taking.

    Personally, it's not a big deal for me. I enjoy it and recognize it for what it is.

    As for the Activision game coming out (I assume this is what you're talking about). Most likely a LOT more development time going into it than the TTG, and a larger price tag than $24.99 for the season.
    Sure, what it says things that look great on paper, but that doesn't always translate to a better experience.
    Same thing could be said for The War Z, which is the game I've been waiting for more info on.

  • So are we all in agreement that our favorite reporter or IT guy is likely to go by next chapter ?
    Oh god, please don't kill them off. At least not on screen.

  • @j.em26 said: So are we all in agreement that our favorite reporter or IT guy is likely to go by next chapter ?
    Oh god, please don't kill them off. At least not on screen.



    if they die off screen i would be very annoyed, i would rather kill them myself then have an off screen death

  • @thestalkinghead said: if they die off screen i would be very annoyed, i would rather kill them myself then have an off screen death


    Can we not have them die at all instead ?
    By the way, does anyone have the link for the leaked Episode 3 Achievements ? Wanna have a look at it.

  • @Awesoke said: Have the achievements really been leaked? Who would want to ruin their own experience by looking ahead?



    yeah, I posted a link of the trophies but I don't feel like I ruined my experience. Im more of a "not the destination but the journey" kind of guy. On another note hopefully they don't kill off Doug im coolest with him and he still needs his moment to shine :/

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