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[SPOILERS from page 3]Logic says the Doug/Carly Will Die in Ep 3

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Since you chose to save one or the other in ep 1, then they are both expendable. It wouldn't make sense to build the complete story around which one you chose. I'm betting that whoever you saved in ep 1 will die in ep 3. Neither can be a main player.

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  • @ComixFan said: To be completely forthcoming it is my hope that she will not die, but that rather she will take on a role for Lee for the next few "seasons" much as Andrea has become for Rick in the graphic novels.

    Carly has already died for about half the players. She cannot play that crucial a role in the story. Neither can Doug, for the folks that saved him. Since either of them could have died, they are both expendable, and I predict that whoever was saved in episode 1 will perish in episode 3.

  • @dankirk said: Carly has already died for about half the players. She cannot play that crucial a role in the story. Neither can Doug, for the folks that saved him. Since either of them could have died, they are both expendable, and I predict that whoever was saved in episode 1 will perish in episode 3.

    What logic on you basing that upon? Merely because one or the other could have died in the first episode? Do you honestly believe the writing and programming talent of TWD Team is so limited they could not write a continuing story for both Carly and Doug? The fact that we're asked to choose between them in Episode 1, and their confidant like nature with Lee, only validates the possibility that both are intended to play important roles in the continuing narrative, and not merely as sacrificial characters for Long Road Ahead.

    Now does that mean there's no chance they will die? Of course not. However I do believe that we will be given the choice of which central characters will be lost. Clearly it won't be Lily due to her importance beyond Lee's story; however that does leave room for Kenny, Ben, Duck, Katjaa, or either of the two new characters. Episode 5 of Talking Dead indicated clearly that, from this point forward, things get bigger and more complicated, hence introducing two new characters. That does not, however, prove with any degree of finality that Carly or Doug *will* die regardless of our choices.

  • @ComixFan said: What logic on you basing that upon? Merely because one or the other could have died in the first episode? Do you honestly believe the writing and programming talent of TWD Team is so limited they could not write a continuing story for both Carly and Doug? The fact that we're asked to choose between them in Episode 1, and their confidant like nature with Lee, only validates the possibility that both are intended to play important roles in the continuing narrative, and not merely as sacrificial characters for Long Road Ahead.

    Now does that mean there's no chance they will die? Of course not. However I do believe that we will be given the choice of which central characters will be lost. Clearly it won't be Lily due to her importance beyond Lee's story; however that does leave room for Kenny, Ben, Duck, Katjaa, or either of the two new characters. Episode 5 of Talking Dead indicated clearly that, from this point forward, things get bigger and more complicated, hence introducing two new characters. That does not, however, prove with any degree of finality that Carly or Doug *will* die regardless of our choices.

    I don't doubt that Telltale could write two completely separate story arcs, depending on which character was saved in ep 1. I doubt that they would do that. The Doug/Carly character will be limited to bit/similar roles, just as they were in ep 2. I stand by my prediction that he/she will be killed in ep 3. I will admit, however, that I've been wrong before.... I honestly don't care if he/she kicks the bucket. I just wanna play the game!

  • @ComixFan said: What logic on you basing that upon?The logistics of it. Merely because one or the other could have died in the first episode?This is exactly why. Do you honestly believe the writing and programming talent of TWD Team is so limited they could not write a continuing story for both Carly and Doug?This question is pointless. Obviously they could if they really wanted to and took the time. The thing is these characters are not going to be worth the time. The fact that we're asked to choose between them in Episode 1, and their confidant like nature with Lee, only validates the possibility that both are intended to play important roles in the continuing narrative, and not merely as sacrificial characters for Long Road AheadAnd its this line of thought that makes them the perfect sacrificial character...It will get a larger emotional response from people like yourself that have become attached..

    Now does that mean there's no chance they will die? Of course not. However I do believe that we will be given the choice of which central characters will be lost. Clearly it won't be Lily due to her importance beyond Lee's story; however that does leave room for Kenny, Ben, Duck, Katjaa, or either of the two new charactersThey can't constantly introduce new characters and kill them off in the same episode. The emotional investment isn't there and the impact will be lessened each time they do it.. Episode 5 of Talking Dead indicated clearly that, from this point forward, things get bigger and more complicated, hence introducing two new characters. That does not, however, prove with any degree of finality that Carly or Doug *will* die regardless of our choices.

    And if they do die regardless of our choices just like we predict? Either doug and carly are going to die or they are going to be backseat characters we barely see. Its easier to kill them now while people are obviously still partially attached instead of down the line when people stop caring. It also makes more sense from a development stand point...

  • @dankirk said: I don't doubt that Telltale could write two completely separate story arcs, depending on which character was saved in ep 1. I doubt that they would do that. The Doug/Carly character will be limited to bit/similar roles, just as they were in ep 2. I stand by my prediction that he/she will be killed in ep 3. I will admit, however, that I've been wrong before.... I honestly don't care if he/she kicks the bucket. I just wanna play the game!

    I don't agree with that in the slightest; however I don't think reiterating the same points on my part is going to get this debate anywhere. I will, however, agree that I have enjoyed the episodes thus far and look forward to playing what-ever comes next.

  • @TheWildcard said: And if they do die regardless of our choices just like we predict? Either doug and carly are going to die or they are going to be backseat characters we barely see. Its easier to kill them now while people are obviously still partially attached instead of down the line when people stop caring. It also makes more sense from a development stand point...

    From a developmental standpoint it makes sense to kill off characters that were tied into, perhaps, the first major consequence choice in the game on top of both being characters that have, thus far, added to the development of the central protagonist and have even provided support at several critical junctions including saving the central protagonist's life? Yeah...that make perfect sense...:rolleyes:

    Ugh, as I've said it really seems like most folks here are grasping at whatever they can to prove Carly or Doug's demise because they seem to dislike, or not see the point of, either character. From my standpoint there is plenty of evidence to refute the idea that Carly or Doug will be killed regardless of choice. However, debating that with "Carly/Doug must die" hardliners doesn't seem overly productive.

    If they die it certainly doesn't mean I will be outraged and stop playing (as long as it's done in a manner that doesn't seem like a cop-out or scapegoat) however I believe from a purely logical/developmental/and narrative standpoint that they won't. I suppose in less then a week or so we'll find out.

  • Logic says everyone will die at some point in time. But I could be wrong.

  • @PuhChewyChomp said: Logic says everyone will die at some point in time.

    It does tend to work that way.

  • This is so much the debates that were going on when Mass Effect 3 was about to come out! LOL

    The number of times I read, "There is no way Tali (or Garrus, or Miranda, ect.) can be important in ME3 cause they can be dead at the end of ME2!" And yet Tali was the difference between getting the Geth and Quarrens to work together, without her it is nearly impossible. (I know Bioware may have a bigger budget but that doesn't mean it is any easier for them from a design standpoint or that they have better people, TellTale has just as talented a group of people working for them I bet and they could do just as much justice to the game)

    The point is (As I've already made and as Comixfan has as well) there is no evidence to support the death of Carley/Doug beyond peoples general lack of trust in TellTale or posters ire towards two digital characters. It is more than possible, in fact, to have a possible dead character be pivotal to the story. Also, many of you have given the easiest way to do it!! Just have it be cosmetic and dialog different but the same general story arc and bingo, Carley/Doug can now be the second most important person in Lee's life after Clem with minimal work, lol.

  • @JCMcAdams84 said: This is so much the debates that were going on when Mass Effect 3 was about to come out! LOL

    The number of times I read, "There is no way Tali (or Garrus, or Miranda, ect.) can be important in ME3 cause they can be dead at the end of ME2!" And yet Tali was the difference between getting the Geth and Quarrens to work together, without her it is nearly impossible. (I know Bioware may have a bigger budget but that doesn't mean it is any easier for them from a design standpoint or that they have better people, TellTale has just as talented a group of people working for them I bet and they could do just as much justice to the game)

    The point is (As I've already made and as Comixfan has as well) there is no evidence to support the death of Carley/Doug beyond peoples general lack of trust in TellTale or posters ire towards two digital characters. It is more than possible, in fact, to have a possible dead character be pivotal to the story. Also, many of you have given the easiest way to do it!! Just have it be cosmetic and dialog different but the same general story arc and bingo, Carley/Doug can now be the second most important person in Lee's life after Clem with minimal work, lol.


    Yes but in Mass effect 3 most decisions changed one character in one side quest

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