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Katjaa and Duck (spoilers)

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Everyone is so upset about Carley, Which I get, I liked her too , that I feel like Kat and Duck's deaths were a bit overshadowed. I know how much people hated Duck, eventhough I didnt. I was wondering how everyone felt about what happened to them.


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  • I find it quite easy to understand Katjaa shooting herself. She always talked about how the world was changing for the worse and now she knew she was going to lose her only child.

    Plus I don't think Duck saw anything. I think his eyes were closed and with him so close to death, he isn't going to be seeing clearly anyway.

  • @United 23 said: I find it quite easy to understand Katjaa shooting herself. She always talked about how the world was changing for the worse and now she knew she was going to lose her only child.

    Plus I don't think Duck saw anything. I think his eyes were closed and with him so close to death, he isn't going to be seeing clearly anyway.

    We don't know if Duck was that far gone for sure. Maybe. Who knows?

    I just didn't expect it from Kat. Her being the one to stabilize Kenny, she seemed to have it put together so much more. I'm not surprised that she did, and I understand why, I'm not saying I don't. I just...didn't expect it.

  • Worst thing is, on the title screen, he is happily hanging out the train window while it's moving.

    Yeah, that really happened in teh game.

    As for Katjaa, as IF she would make her child WATCH her shoot herself. That's not a good mother.

    Also what about her husband? How is he going to feel, watching her die as well as his son? What a bitch.

    As for Duck, there was a clue in the train engine that the guy did not turn. So MAYBE there are ways or some people that can die without coming back.

  • If you choose to shoot Duck yourself, and you wait a minute before shooting him, you hear him stop breathing. I shot him as soon as I realised he had died so I don't know if he turns and kills you if you don't shoot him quick enough buy yeah, he was far gone.

  • I felt terrible by the end of the episode.
    I treated Duck alright so far until this episode, it annoyed me that he was listening to my conversation with Lilly, so I just told him to piss of the entire episode. And after he got bit I really felt like shit.

    Then came the moment of Katjaa and Duck, and I felt I did not deserve to put him out of his misery, and that it was Kenny who had to put an end to it all. Maybe this would cure his cowardice. But well.. Regardless this was the most heartbreaking bit on this episode.

    Carley and Lilly was bad enough but that was a heat of the moment thing, and this was slow, it dragged on, and stayed in your head until the very end.

  • @Sergiy said:
    Carley and Lilly was bad enough but that was a heat of the moment thing, and this was slow, it dragged on, and stayed in your head until the very end.

    Precisely how I felt. That whole Carley/Lilly thing was on my mind throughout the entire episode. In fact, I'll be honest enough to admit it made me less sensitive to the Kat's suicide scene. When that was over, I just lost all enthusiasm.

  • @United 23 said: If you choose to shoot Duck yourself, and you wait a minute before shooting him, you hear him stop breathing. I shot him as soon as I realised he had died so I don't know if he turns and kills you if you don't shoot him quick enough buy yeah, he was far gone.

    I waited at least a couple of minutes with the gun pointed right as his head and nothing happened. I was tempted to leave it longer, but got bored.

  • Another thing with Kenny that made me mad.

    He kills Lilly's dad so easily because he is 'GOING TO TURN' and he's so sure he's right about that. But then hours/days later into the story, he's all defensive of his son. Very hypocritical and not believable after he went to such lengths to make sure Lilly's dad didn't come back.

  • Thats a very human response though. We can easily talk about taking out a bitten person before they turn when there not a loved one. But would Lee be swift to blow Clems brains out if she was the one slowly dying?

    Would YOU be willing to callously kill your child/parent/spouse in that situation? I think most people would struggle with it.

  • @Sir Craigius said: Thats a very human response though. We can easily talk about taking out a bitten person before they turn when there not a loved one. But would Lee be swift to blow Clems brains out if she was the one slowly dying?

    Would YOU be willing to callously kill your child/parent/spouse in that situation? I think most people would struggle with it.


    Actually I could do it. I watched my mother die from lung & brain cancer 2 years ago, my grandmother from organ failure 5 months ago. Then my cat went into seizures the next day and 8 weeks ago had to put him down due to leukemia virus/lymphoma cancer. After my mother died, I looked after a disabled wild pigeon that was going into shock.. kept him alive for 6.5 months but when organ failure occurred, he tried to land on his head.. only half broke his neck so I had to finish it to put him out of his misery.

    So yes, none of these choices are fun. But when my mother was dying, I felt a message sent from her mentally (she was in chemocide dehydration/malnurishment/psychosis so couldn't speak), that if she kept going the way she was, to put a pillow over her.. not the kind of thing I woudl think of myself, really felt she sent me that thought. She always asked me before, if she ever had anything wrong with her brain like dementia etc, to euthanise her..

    So from these instances, yes, if Clem was bitten, I would do my best to make sure she didn't hurt anyone else or come back as a zombie asap.

    However I DO understand Kenny's hypocritical nature. Sure, it is a lot easier to kill Lilly's father whom he hated for how he treated Duck.. than to kill Duck. But after that he should have realised. He ruined Lilly's goodbye.. I wanted to do the same to him. I was so angry. The whole time he's nursing Duck, I wanted to grab a brick and smash it on his head. OR at very least have the dialog opportunity to call him a hypocrite and remind him about Lilly's dad every chance I could get!!

    Callous - Showing or having an insensitive and cruel disregard for others.

    I wouldn't think it would be callous to kill your loved one, saving others from when they turn into a parasitic entity. Also to stop the parasite from taking over the brain, in these cases 'killing your loved one' is actually compassion, ending suffering and for the safety of everyone currently alive. As once bitten they are as 'good as dead' as there is no cure for this parasitic blood disease. Interesting that the train driver did not turn.

    It's like the plague. When someone has it, no time for remorse or hanging out with them to say goodbye, lest you should get it yourself.

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