User Avatar Image

[SPOILERS] CARLEY [Ep 3 discussion]

posted by Oblivion1659 on - last edited - Viewed by 12.5K users

Hey i am really annoyed about carley being shot when it happend i didnt even want to carry on playing anyway maybe they could bring carly back she could have just been grazed by the bullet.No one even checked to she if she was dead the group could meet up with her again.I wont be buying anymore episodes unless carly comes back my friends also said the same.

Please say in the comments that you want carly back and make a thread about this and then maybe telltale games will see that we want carly back.

558 Comments - Linear Discussion: Classic Style
  • @Cyreen said: No, they haven't seen anyone die like that before. Walkers aren't people.

    The St. John Brothers, Larry, The bandits, etc. They saw all of those, and most of those were worse than a simple bullet wound.

  • You do make a good counterpoint....

  • @Grimez said: The St. John Brothers, Larry, The bandits, etc. They saw all of those, and most of those were worse than a simple bullet wound.

    That's your game, not mine. Obviously you were less concerned about the kids to begin with, so hauling around a corpse wouldn't be a stretch. The bandits are not "hundreds" of dead bodies and Clem and Duck were hiding and didn't actually "see" most of that.

  • Touche, when I said hundreds I was including walkers. Bandits would probably be somewhere from 10 - 50.

  • @Cyreen said: A dead body and two little kids in a RV? Yeah, that's not twisted. The appropriate response to Carley's death at the time was anger, which Lee did quite well and I didn't see a shovel in his inventory and then the situation was rapidly followed up with a bite victim. There's nothing wrong with feeding the critters, but the walkers don't eat dead meat.

    The kids thing is not an acceptable excuse, nobody knew about any bite victim yet either. He didn't even bother checking her pulse or even looking at her. Kenny just stepped over her and didn't look either. Ben didn't even do a closer inspection, just looked at Carley and thats it....
    He should of just took her in the RV for closer inspection and a funeral. If you choose to take Lily with you, you don't see any walkers in the backround, you just get a cutscene of Carley and the dead walkers body so theres no rush of walkers coming for ya which leads me to this quote....

    @Cyreen said: How Lee handled Carleys Death was really sloppy
    I kinda got that feeling that her death wasn't planned, but got changed mid development, because they couldnt keep up with the deadlines.

    I got this feeling too. Disappointed TTG, disappointed. It was there because of budget issues, but I'd prefer for Chuck or Christa or that other guy to get scrapped for budget issues instead of Doug/ Carley -_-. BEN would be the perfect person to get scrapped instead! Nobody literally cares about him right now....

  • Honestly, I thought they handled the death well. Carley's death was the first time a video game made me sit up and shout at the TV. I made the decision to leave Lily there before I knew the option even existed and I would have killed her with my bare hands if they had let me. Lee got into that van and was shocked, he hadn't come to terms with it and neither had I. That's what good story telling does, it elicts strong emotions from you and sparks great debates like this.
    I've had a few moments of intense emotion, when the brothers threatened Clem, I straight lost my shit and choose to run at them. It didn't even matter that I knew I'd probably be shot. Waking up I was first worried about Clem and then after I was sure she was safe I accessed the situation. I'm a stone cold gamer, most of the time I play games I only think of what will benefit me the most or if it's a Mass Effect game where that's less important I pick the way I'm going to play. These moments through all that out and made it real. I cared about the characters as if they were people in those moments.
    So what if they made the decision to remove the character because of money, stuff like that happens. If that's true, and I'm not convinced it is, they used what they had to do to craft a memorable experience and show you all that you cared about some pixels and 1's and 0's more than many of you ever had. Carley's death showed you anyone can die, but it also drove home the fact
    that anyone can snap in your group, people YOU trust can kill people YOU care about. This group was not unitied, hell they wouldn't have even been near each other save the circumstances. Lily was unstable and this was her breaking point. I had one of my own, I killed the first brother, didn't even think of it just stabbed him. The decision made sense to me and I was happy with it till I realized Clem had seen it. I rationalized it to her but when she asked me if I had to do it I knew the answer was no. I didn't kill the second brother and I didn't steal the food because they were the right things to do. Those decisions mattered, they mattered to me because I didn't become a monster. Will I see any real changes in the game? I have no idea and don't care, the way I felt was worth it regardless. I felt good picking Carley, she was objectively a better choice and a more personable character for me. The actions were different, the feel of the character was different.

  • @last.vill said: you say ludicrous clementine before had seen body of larry and st.john brothers in episode 2

    Clem saw Larry, otherwise that's your game, not mine.

  • @CrazyGamerzPC said: The kids thing is not an acceptable excuse, nobody knew about any bite victim yet either. He didn't even bother checking her pulse or even looking at her. Kenny just stepped over her and didn't look either. Ben didn't even do a closer inspection, just looked at Carley and thats it....
    He should of just took her in the RV for closer inspection and a funeral. If you choose to take Lily with you, you don't see any walkers in the backround, you just get a cutscene of Carley and the dead walkers body so theres no rush of walkers coming for ya which leads me to this quote....

    I got this feeling too. Disappointed TTG, disappointed. It was there because of budget issues, but I'd prefer for Chuck or Christa or that other guy to get scrapped for budget issues instead of Doug/ Carley -_-. BEN would be the perfect person to get scrapped instead! Nobody literally cares about him right now....

    Honestly, feels like you just miss her. Thats okay bro, I miss her too.
    *hugs*

    Also I don't think the death was completely rushed and random, those two were fighting since ep 1. I think it's just Telltale hitting us where it hurts.

  • The only issue with collecting Carley's body was crazy Lily just happened to be right next to the body.... being crazy. Also, gunshots attract walkers so it made sense to leave her body.

  • First of all after reading through this whole thread I'd like to say this. STOP SPOILING THE FUCKING COMICS that's seriously rude, this is a forum about the game and if you are gonna write something about the comic then put it under a spoiler.

    Second of all, on the discussion if this was good or not both sides make valid points. The good parts about the death I guess is that it shows how much they actually made you care about the character, hell when she got shot it fealt like a real person got shot and I've been sad for a whole day now. That is not something that any game or movie has ever made me become. Also you could argue that it shows that the writers have balls and no one is safe.

    BUT

    I don't care for one single character anymore except for Clementine. For the rest of the episode my feelings wasn't as invoked as before, sure the other death scenes was well done but I still wasn't having a good gaming experience. I also feel like many other people say, that the death was rushed and cheap. How Lee reacted afterwards didn't feel real at all. He got mad at Lilly at once, but almost didn't talk about Carley at all afterwards. He should have had a short moment to say goodbye or something since they weren't really in that big of a rush, she was the only person that he had any really good connection with, who always stood by his side and he also had feelings for her.

    Some death scenes in games have been among the best gaming experiences ever and this could have been outstanding, but the only thing it invoked was rage and not just because of sadness but because it wasn't handled good enough.

    Some people (specially a lot on the youtube videos) talk about that she might come back since the bullet only scratched her cheek and no one checked her pulse or anything. I don't know if it would work for this season, but if they would bring her back if they make a second season (which I really hope they do) I actually think it could be good. It would come as a surprise and she could be one of Lee's closest people. A lot of emotional dialouges between them could happen since he though she was dead and all. Then they could kill her off for real later on in the season but give her and Lee a much more emotional moment in the death scene.

Add Comment