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Team Lily to the end (appreciation thread)

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I guess I may be the only one here who would still support Lily if she shows up at some future point in time.
Why?
I appreciate her leadership skills, her selflessness (having to make all those little decisions is really difficult) and her reasoning. She tried to keep this group together, she did her very best but some other people...like Kenny always tried to have it their way, always consider what's only best for his family.
I think we all agree it was difficult giving the rations the first time in episode two. We got a glimpse of what she has to do every day. People hated us for those choices, so they hate her even more for having to do it every day. But there's no one else who would do it.

She was still pretty reasonable until Kenny murdered her father. People can complain that he saved them and all that crap... but you couldn't have known for sure and that's the truth. He overreacted and again being the selfish asshole he is, he did the easiest choice for him. Eliminate the enemy and undermine the leader's authority.

In episode 3 we see things haven't changed. Lily is still the only one to really tries to protect the group. Lee, of course, helps always and as much as he can, but others like Kenny... they didn't even feel bad for what they did in episode 2. Kenny ruined this group and yet he still wanted things to go his way. He kept pushing Lily without really doing anything for the group. He was determined to abandon all.
Carley... she didn't really do anything. She could've stepped in and helped Lily when she saw she was about to snap... but she didn't. The only thing she actually did was tease Lee, look cute, and avoid participation in almost every important discussion. The downfall in episode 3 is partially her fault as well.
When the bandits attacked the group it was again Lily that came to the rescue to a group that hated her. Kenny wouldn't swallow my disrespect for him and actually tried to get me killed too many times in this episode.
Ben... and Kenny really started a chain reaction. With both their stupidity combined they managed to indirectly kill Carley, Katjaa and Duck as well destroy the group from within.
Both cowards and both DUBM as a bag of hammers.
I would so love to see them gone in episode 4 & 5. I don't need stupid people in my group, people who know nothing about responsibility or humanity.


It was sad to see Lily snap but I guess there is a line as to where a person can take it. In the end of the day I'm sure she'll regret her choices and will eventually learn from them. She kills Lorry cause she believes they are threatening her group. When she sees how wrong she was she offs the Governor. That's a pretty redeeming deed in my book, one that clearly shows she actually develops.

I would certainly love to see more of her in future episodes/seasons.

So, am I the only one? :D Even if I am, I will still be defending this position to the end :P

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  • @YamiRaziel said: I think what rachellouise85 meant to say was that she hasn't been planning on killing Carley as some people try to make it :)



    No I dont think she woke up and was like 'Im killing Carley today'
    But maybe she saw red outside the RV or what, but once that gun was pulled her target had been decided

  • EP 3 SPOILERS



    Im sick of Kenny's shit. The one scene where he left my Lee under the door and didn't help really got me mad. His excuse is that there were walkers everywhere? I see him standing there with his thumb up his ass contemplating on leaving Lee. To hell with Kenny, I chose to leave with Lilly but she tricked me! lol. So yes, I appreciate Lilly and all that shes done to keep the GROUP together, not just her family, like some red neck we all know. But to be honest I do feel sympathy to Ken since he lost his wife and son within minutes. Like someone else said I hope Lilly re appears for a scene or even just mentioned. She was a good character, and a good leader.

  • @YamiRaziel said: It would be cool if she makes a cameo in the final episode only in the stories of those players who have chosen to run away with her :) Of course that won't happen probably, but still...



    Keep dreaming pal.

    There is no need for a Lilly appreciation thread. What do you expect?

    "ALL HAIL LILLY FOR GOING CRAZY AND KILLING CARLY AND STEALING THE RV!"

  • Team lily because she kills lori

  • @rachellouise85 said: I don't think she was thinking and planning to kill carley (haven't seen the one with doug). Looks like she just saw red, and she had a gun. To me she looks shocked/stunned after doing it herself.



    Of course she wasn't REALLY planning to kill her when they got in the RV. She most definitely wanted her gone some way or another, though. Carley never recognized her as a leader and didn't follow her "orders". They obviously had feuds behind the scenes (in between the episodes) because none of them are afraid to express their opinions and it didn't seem like they agreed on many things... The various circumstances didn't help.

    I'm not biased but I just don't see how the virtual murder of the virtual character Carley was justified in any way. No way for me to flip it around and make Lily look any less bad than any cold blooded killer.

    In my game Lily slaughtered her most trusted friend's best friend in front of two kids and Kenny. So she murdered an innocent woman and destroyed her own life (as far as this episode goes) and scarred three others' for life. Oh, but it's cool! She was a little depressed, that's all! It'll buff out!

  • When people are really angry, at the point of snapping, they tend not to rationalise things.

  • @rachellouise85 said: When people are really angry, at the point of snapping, they tend not to rationalise things.



    That's true... I don't know how many people I've killed in real life because they called me a "scared little girl"... I take back everything I've said

  • @plaqueconspiracy said: Of course she wasn't REALLY planning to kill her when they got in the RV. She most definitely wanted her gone some way or another, though. Carley never recognized her as a leader and didn't follow her "orders". They obviously had feuds behind the scenes (in between the episodes) because none of them are afraid to express their opinions and it didn't seem like they agreed on many things... The various circumstances didn't help.

    I'm not biased but I just don't see how the virtual murder of the virtual character Carley was justified in any way. No way for me to flip it around and make Lily look any less bad than any cold blooded killer.

    In my game Lily slaughtered her most trusted friend's best friend in front of two kids and Kenny. So she murdered an innocent woman and destroyed her own life (as far as this episode goes) and scarred three others' for life. Oh, but it's cool! She was a little depressed, that's all! It'll buff out!



    Don't put things that aren't there.
    Except for killing few bandits and walkers Carley didn't do anything. She never participated in anything. I don't remember seeing her on watch, nor has she gone hunting. She really didn't do much.
    Most arguments were went like this:
    Lilly : Kenny..you bla bla bla bla - fighting
    Kenny: Lilly, you bla bla bla bla fighting
    Lee: C'mon guys, stop it let's do what's best for the kids.
    *Carley appears
    Carley: Are you guys fighting again?
    *Carley goes away

    In my game Lilly killed a bitch that decided she would run her mouth at the least appropriate time. You know when you are that worthless you shut the fu** up and obey. As Rick said it at the end of season 2 "This is not a democracy anymore!". I guess in my game it never was :D Don't get me wrong I'm not gonna shake Lilly's hand for killing Carley, but if she really was stupid enough to talk back at her like that, well she kinda asked for it.

    I think Doug's version is far more tragic. Doug is a good fellow and he died saving the traitor. He wasn't that useless either. He was fixing the fence, giving you information about chalk... funny stuff :D He was a silent guy but he didn't try to be something he clearly wasn't. Poor Doug.

  • That's true... I don't know how many people I've killed in real life because they called me a "scared little girl"... I take back everything I've said



    I think you are someone who could get one to that point.

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