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Team Lily to the end (appreciation thread)

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I guess I may be the only one here who would still support Lily if she shows up at some future point in time.
Why?
I appreciate her leadership skills, her selflessness (having to make all those little decisions is really difficult) and her reasoning. She tried to keep this group together, she did her very best but some other people...like Kenny always tried to have it their way, always consider what's only best for his family.
I think we all agree it was difficult giving the rations the first time in episode two. We got a glimpse of what she has to do every day. People hated us for those choices, so they hate her even more for having to do it every day. But there's no one else who would do it.

She was still pretty reasonable until Kenny murdered her father. People can complain that he saved them and all that crap... but you couldn't have known for sure and that's the truth. He overreacted and again being the selfish asshole he is, he did the easiest choice for him. Eliminate the enemy and undermine the leader's authority.

In episode 3 we see things haven't changed. Lily is still the only one to really tries to protect the group. Lee, of course, helps always and as much as he can, but others like Kenny... they didn't even feel bad for what they did in episode 2. Kenny ruined this group and yet he still wanted things to go his way. He kept pushing Lily without really doing anything for the group. He was determined to abandon all.
Carley... she didn't really do anything. She could've stepped in and helped Lily when she saw she was about to snap... but she didn't. The only thing she actually did was tease Lee, look cute, and avoid participation in almost every important discussion. The downfall in episode 3 is partially her fault as well.
When the bandits attacked the group it was again Lily that came to the rescue to a group that hated her. Kenny wouldn't swallow my disrespect for him and actually tried to get me killed too many times in this episode.
Ben... and Kenny really started a chain reaction. With both their stupidity combined they managed to indirectly kill Carley, Katjaa and Duck as well destroy the group from within.
Both cowards and both DUBM as a bag of hammers.
I would so love to see them gone in episode 4 & 5. I don't need stupid people in my group, people who know nothing about responsibility or humanity.


It was sad to see Lily snap but I guess there is a line as to where a person can take it. In the end of the day I'm sure she'll regret her choices and will eventually learn from them. She kills Lorry cause she believes they are threatening her group. When she sees how wrong she was she offs the Governor. That's a pretty redeeming deed in my book, one that clearly shows she actually develops.

I would certainly love to see more of her in future episodes/seasons.

So, am I the only one? :D Even if I am, I will still be defending this position to the end :P

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  • @rachellouise85 said: I think you are someone who could get one to that point.

    Get who to what point?

  • @YamiRaziel said: Get who to what point?

    I forgot to quote him. Get someone to point of just snapping, and doing something without thinking it though etc.

  • @Brash Smurf said: Team lily because she kills lori

    'nuff said
    /thread

  • I can't believe that Carley just kept going though. After they had all established lilly was becoming unstable etc. I guess they were all on the point of breaking and everything. Katjaa was right to feel uneasy about everyone carrying guns

  • @Xarne said: 'nuff said
    /thread

    Lori was by far one of the most annoying characters in both the comic book and the TV show :)

  • @YamiRaziel said: Lori was by far one of the most annoying characters in both the comic book and the TV show :)

    Sick to my stomach isnt even the tip of the iceberg regarding that woman

  • @bazenji said: Carley didn't kill Larry. What Carley did was challenge Lilly's leadership. Repeatedly.

    It's actually in Lilly's first appearance. When Carley and Glenn save your original crew from zombies, Lilly freaks right out and claims they need to throw everyone back into the street with the zombies. Back into the street.

    Larry's big and angry, but Lilly's just as cold-blooded as he is. She just speaks more softly. She's just as horrible.

    What it all comes down to is, without Larry, she doesn't have muscle. She doesn't have someone to jump out and scare people into following her orders. So when Carley challenges her and Larry's not there to jump in her face and start screaming, Lilly shoots her instead since she really is a coward.

    NOTE: Notice how she starts reaching for the gun but doesn't shoot Carley until she turns around. She knows Carley would kill her first if she tried. It was calculated.


    I agree, if she had killed kenny lee or (in my game I helped kill larry) would at least have a reason.

  • @rachellouise85 said: I think you are someone who could get one to that point.

    What makes you say that? Lets say I got to the point and snapped in a world like this and an innocent woman in front a pair of kids and her best friend... How would I not a monster?

  • @RafaelBrasileiro said: I agree, if she had killed kenny lee or (in my game I helped kill larry) would at least have a reason.

    Kenny and Lee had kids to take care, so they wouldn't risk dealing with bandits. It is a sound logic and I was thinking of it too when I played this ep. for the first time.
    As for Carley, I can't really agree that she was challenging Lilly's leadership. Carley rarely did anything besides shooting a few heads.

  • I have to admit, despite everything... I find I just can't hate Lilly....

    I hope the novel really does focus on her, rather than having her just in it.

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