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What exactly did Ben do wrong?

posted by MakersWax on - last edited - Viewed by 705 users

I get it, Ben was giving supplies to the bandits without anyone's consent. Wasn't he doing it to keep them from attacking the motel and killing the group? I must have missed something, because I thought he was doing it after Lilly accused him but didn't give a damn.

If the group needed to tithe the bandits to keep from getting raided, who cares who was doing it? What did I miss?

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  • @Googolplexbyte said: The bandits were about to make a deal with lee, but then Lilly shot a bandit initiating the firefight, attracting the walkers, leading to duck's bite, and by extension katja's suicide.



    lol this is Lily's fault now? You dont negotiate with scumbags trying to take whats yours...you stall them out then kill them. Making a deal with bandits...

  • @Xarne said: None of this is Lily's fault because Lily did not cause the initial problem which was the bandits...(wait for it) BEN did. Bear with me:
    Ben comes clean
    Group rallies a defense and strategy ('We have your next pickup'- BLAM)
    Problem removed.

    That simple
    Instead:
    A) Because Ben says nothing about bandits.
    B)Bandits assume arrangement is still on-going, nothing at the pickup, get very hostile.
    C) Bandits ambush motel- now, no one can see walkers (See A)
    D) Walkers ambush motel- because of C (See A)
    E) Duck gets bit because of C and D (See A)
    F)Lily goes Apeshit over C and gets to the source of the problem
    G) D/C go to defend Ben
    H) D/C dies valiantly defending a fool
    I) Duck dies from E
    G) Katjaa loses will to live because of I

    As you can see, B-G all go right back to A- the source of all mortalities in Ep3. Flowchart would make it much prettier but the logic is still there



    Nope bandits knew about the motel and it was one of their alternative after the dairy went down, just like Clem's stalker said.

    Plus Lilly would of shot Ben in the face the second he said he'd made a deal with the bandits, she tried even when she didn't know it was him for certain, why wouldn't she when she did know? She was unstable from her dad's death.

  • @Googolplexbyte said: Nope bandits knew about the motel and it was one of their alternative after the dairy went down, just like Clem's stalker said.

    Plus Lilly would of shot Ben in the face the second he said he'd made a deal with the bandits, she tried even when she didn't know it was him for certain, why wouldn't she when she did know? She was unstable from her dad's death.



    Yea i would too especially after her kept it secret for that long and Lilly was extremely pissed when the bandits took over the Motel

  • @Xarne said: lol this is Lily's fault now? You dont negotiate with scumbags trying to take whats yours...you stall them out then kill them. Making a deal with bandits...



    No you convince them to fuck off and get out of there on your own terms. Only a psycho would be dumb enough to start a fight with a numerical superior, more heavily armed opponent in an indefensible position when there's a clear out.

  • @Googolplexbyte said: No you convince them to fuck off and get out of there on your own terms. Only a psycho would be dumb enough to start a fight with a numerical superior, more heavily armed opponent in an indefensible position when there's a clear out.



    There is NO WAY they could have been convinced to leave them alone. So the only way to survive is to kill them

  • @Viser said: I seriously doubt they would have helped him.



    huh?

    Ben: um, Lily, I've been siphoning off our group's much needed to supplies to a pack of filthy lowlife bandits that roam around. They know where we are and I've arranged designated drop zones for them to walk right up to our area and talk it at their leisure.

    Lily: Whatever, your problem not mine
    The entire group will suffer by his actions...but nobody will help?...

    Anyway, its cool, we all have our different views on Ben. We'll see how things go in Ep 4

  • @Googolplexbyte said: The bandits were about to make a deal with lee, but then Lilly shot a bandit initiating the firefight, attracting the walkers, leading to duck's bite, and by extension katja's suicide.



    right like i said lilly had nothing to do with why the bandits attacked it was ben and lily did what she had to do those bandits deserved what they got they were scumbags if ben had said something to the group than lee wouldnt have had to find the bag and remove it causing the bandits to attack the group

  • @Xarne said: lol this is Lily's fault now? You dont negotiate with scumbags trying to take whats yours...you stall them out then kill them. Making a deal with bandits...



    Exactly, you don't deal with terrorists.

    What if before leaving the bandits had shot one of your group? Would that have been an acceptable loss? Lee was stalling them, that's all.

    However, Ben only delayed the inevitable by giving the bandits supplies.

  • @Xarne said: lol this is Lily's fault now? You dont negotiate with scumbags trying to take whats yours...you stall them out then kill them. Making a deal with bandits...



    I think Carley/Doug getting shot is partially Lilly partially Ben. But on the other count, I agree, the bandits attacking the camp and thus Duck/Katjaa's deaths fall squarely on Ben in my opinion.

  • @Zombies are Awesome! said: There is NO WAY they could have been convinced to leave them alone. So the only way to survive is to kill them



    My lee was just about to strike a deal with bandit, when madame retard put a bullet through his skull, obviously it was possible when I was about to do it. Ben manage and he's just a dumb kid, lee's a freaking grown man and a professor, I Ben can do he as sure as hell can. Lee fucking convinced a man to kill his own son ffs, I think that's a little harder than trading with bandits.

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