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[Spoilers - Ep. 3] In defence of Ben

posted by Googolplexbyte on - last edited - Viewed by 4K users

Wasn't Ben just preventing the inevitable? Like Eagle hair is paraphrase as having said, "the second the dairy farm stopped bandits would get us instead".

If not for Ben, the bandits would've got us right at the end of ep. 2. Sure the secrecy was fucking stupid, but lee's no one to judge others for secrecy.

It's completely Lilly's fault really, if she hadn't started a gun fight with an army of bandits attracting an army of dead, everyone could got out of there at there own pace. Plus stealing's hardly punishable by death, she'd gone crazy. Was she still nuts later in the comic?

Also it was kind of inevitable doug/carley would've died they'd taken a bit of a backseat in the story.

And honestly what other choice was there, it was probably a deal made at gunpoint considering bandits and all. Plus we raided the entire pharmacy and it was time to leave any way.

Plus even if I were wrong in my opinion, the game should still have the decency to let me show it in game rather than forcing me to be an ass to Ben.

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  • Yeah, but even that requires a certain level of emotion, negative as it is.

    I don't think he's anything but an automaton at this point. The man is in shock, plain and simple.

    ...now after something brings him out of it... no way to tell.

  • @JCMcAdams84 said: Only if they let you tell him, which I'm thinking they wont.

    Considering Lee is like "Don't you fucking dare tell Kenny what you did!" I doubt Lee is want to do the telling either.

  • Whether or not he had good intentions his actions led to the death of Carley (in my game), Katjaa, and Duck. He should have come to us with his plan instead of just doing it. If Kenny finds out and wants to kill Ben I will not get in his way.

  • @Christoaster said: If Ben told everyone about the deal everything would go smoothly :

    Ben would tell the group about the deal and everyone can discuss about it casually. The group as a whole should keep the deal going while finding out a plan. That plan should be fix the RV gather all of the goods into the RV and then escape. Hopefully Lilly wouldn't be a bitch about it and just leave. Then they just escape into the Van cutting off the Deal with the bandits, and be done with them.

    Things would've gone a lot more smoothly if Ben told everyone about the deal. Anyways how is it Lilly's fault? Sure she shot the bandit but who knows she could've saved one of the survivors lives. Those bandits are crazy and coudl've shot any time. If anything I think Lilly helped, since there would be gunfire anyways.

    I really don't get that, you really think Lilly would've let Ben off that lightly? She wanted to get rid of Ben from the beginning, he steps out of line, and she's definitely not gonna let him stay.

    She was adamant in staying at the motel, Ben's bandit deal makes that basically impossible, that alongside the fact that kicking Ben out = Death + the fact Lilly's on edge from losing the only thing she has left, her dad, means there's no way she wouldn't kill Ben, she tried on the RV.

    But here's the thing I really don't get, those of you who hate Ben because you lost Carley, why don't you hate Lilly not Ben? Lilly despised Carley, she basically shot Carley based on that one sassy comment. Also Carley was protecting Ben, she dies doing that and you aren't going to honour that, your going to defy Carley's wish to protect Ben. How do you look at the situation of Lilly vs. Ben by Carley, and then when she dies you side with her opponent not who she was defending? seriously WTH? Same goes for Doug too, but more on the side of Doug defending than being hated.

    In the words of the great ChaoticMonki, Cry ~ "Ben, Doug gave his Life for you, that means your his replacement"

  • @Googolplexbyte said:
    But here's the thing I really don't get, those of you who hate Ben because you lost Carley, why don't you hate Lilly not Ben?

    You just dont get it. Ben isnt hated because of the death of Carley. He is hated because of the ripple effect he caused by not being open with the group that caused the death of 3 group members. It's clear you dont see this, but that's exactly how Ep 3 went down. And btw, I chose Doug, so it's not the loss of my e-girlfriend if that's what you're thinking :), it's about Ben putting unnecessarily everyone at risk. Being honest up front would have prevented all of this.

    There is something in your thinking about Lily that clouds you from seeing this I think.

  • @Googolplexbyte said: But here's the thing I really don't get, those of you who hate Ben because you lost Carley, why don't you hate Lilly not Ben? Lilly despised Carley, she basically shot Carley based on that one sassy comment. Also Carley was protecting Ben, she dies doing that and you aren't going to honour that, your going to defy Carley's wish to protect Ben. How do you look at the situation of Lilly vs. Ben by Carley, and then when she dies you side with her opponent not who she was defending? seriously WTH? Same goes for Doug too, but more on the side of Doug defending than being hated.

    In the words of the great ChaoticMonki, Cry ~ "Ben, Doug gave his Life for you, that means your his replacement"

    Maybe because if Ben hadn't been stealing to begin with then Carley would be alive. I'm sure Carley didn't even know that Ben was stealing and was sticking up for him based upon the "innocent until proven guilty" approach. Fact: If Ben doesn't do what he did, or comes to the group with his plan then none of what went down, goes down. Ben IS the reason that the group lost three people. I hope Kenny rips his head off.

  • See, Lilly had it right.

    If you're part of a group, and someone else steals from that group, especially stuff that might keep a member of that group alive. It's like they're killing the group.

    If you're part of a group, he's stealing from YOU.

    Are you really going to let that slide?

    If it were me, I'd have Sparta-Kicked his ass into a horde.

  • @Xarne said: There is something in your thinking about Lily that clouds you from seeing this I think.

    Maybe it's her E-vajayjay :)

  • According to MOST of the group members, the bandits stopped attacking for some reason. According to Kenny, the bandits had our number and could roll in and wipe us out. According to Lee, the bandits could easily take the motel.

    Guess what coincided with the bandits not attacking? That's right, Ben giving them some meds.

    Here's an interesting twist in all of this. If you talk to Ben while he's on guard duty he tells you straight up, "I'm terrified of Lilly." That's why he didn't talk about it. Because he knew Lilly would kill him.

    Oh, wait, that's exactly what she tries to do.

  • Little Benny was fwightened? Awww, that's ok
    Nobody is missing Duck or Kat, right Kenny?
    And absolutlely nobody is missing Carely, right TTG forums?

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