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[Spoilers - Ep. 3] In defence of Ben

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Wasn't Ben just preventing the inevitable? Like Eagle hair is paraphrase as having said, "the second the dairy farm stopped bandits would get us instead".

If not for Ben, the bandits would've got us right at the end of ep. 2. Sure the secrecy was fucking stupid, but lee's no one to judge others for secrecy.

It's completely Lilly's fault really, if she hadn't started a gun fight with an army of bandits attracting an army of dead, everyone could got out of there at there own pace. Plus stealing's hardly punishable by death, she'd gone crazy. Was she still nuts later in the comic?

Also it was kind of inevitable doug/carley would've died they'd taken a bit of a backseat in the story.

And honestly what other choice was there, it was probably a deal made at gunpoint considering bandits and all. Plus we raided the entire pharmacy and it was time to leave any way.

Plus even if I were wrong in my opinion, the game should still have the decency to let me show it in game rather than forcing me to be an ass to Ben.

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  • I have to admit, I'll be rather pleased if TTG finds a way to redeem him.

    I've always been a fan of redemption stories... I just hope it's not a cliche like redeem via heroic sacrifice.

  • @Sisterofshane said: Ben had been segregated from the group since the moment he arrived - the moment Lilly opened her mouth saying that he shouldn't even be there. As far as the reasons she lists against Ben in the RV (about him being the new guy, or a bandit "plant") I don't think she ever changed this toxic mindset.

    Perhaps Ben would have behaved differently if he had been accepted into the group fully and had someone take him under their wing. In short, nobody trusted him, so why should he have trusted anybody else when the bandits told him that they had one of his friends? What could have possibly driven him to keep such a threat a secret, other than a belief that he was an outcast and that nobody would help him? And who perpetuated that belief?

    Oh, come on ,sisterofshane, you know it's Kenny's fault! :D

    So it's Lilly's fault for looking after the group? Well, you know if it wasn't for her, most of you would be dead because of the bandits.
    Even if you somehow survived that you would still be left with Kenny who would betray you all in an instant just to save his or his family's skin, Ben who's a traitor and can't be trusted and Carley who's gullible enough to believe that she's helping somebody by protecting a traitor... Oh, I almost forgot.. you would have Duck as well.
    You're pretty much doomed in my opinion. :D

  • @YamiRaziel said: Oh, come on ,sisterofshane, you know it's Kenny's fault! :D

    So it's Lilly's fault for looking after the group? Well, you know if it wasn't for her, most of you would be dead because of the bandits.
    Even if you somehow survived that you would still be left with Kenny who would betray you all in an instant just to save his or his family's skin, Ben who's a traitor and can't be trusted and Carley who's gullible enough to believe that she's helping somebody by protecting a traitor... Oh, I almost forgot.. you would have Duck as well.
    You're pretty much doomed in my opinion. :D


    how do you know that? if she had died in episode 1 and kenny was in charge they probably would have been miles away from the bandits.

    there has been no evidence that she has done anything that has kept the group alive except the no hash headshot

  • well...because she saves the group from the bandits.
    If she had died in ep. 1 things would be different, but she's not the type to easily die.

    I don't think running around the country with the RV would've accomplished something. It has always looked like a terrible idea... and that boat... it might not even be there.

    Maybe the comic book has affected me but knowing what's actually out there I would always prefer to stay in the motor inn and deal with the bandits.

  • @YamiRaziel said: well...because she saves the group from the bandits.
    If she had died in ep. 1 things would be different, but she's not the type to easily die.

    I don't think running around the country with the RV would've accomplished something. It has always looked like a terrible idea... and that boat... it might not even be there.

    Maybe the comic book has affected me but knowing what's actually out there I would always prefer to stay in the motor inn and deal with the bandits.

    well, i haven't read all (just the first hardback) the comics but, hasnt settling in anywhere got people killed? and how could 3 maybe 4 people deal with the massive group of bandits long term?

  • @thestalkinghead said: well, i haven't read all (just the first hardback) the comics but, hasnt settling in anywhere got people killed? and how could 3 maybe 4 people deal with the massive group of bandits long term?

    I don't wanna spoil anything for you, but let's say that it's really, really dangerous. I would choose the devil I know, than the angel I don't.

  • @YamiRaziel said: I don't wanna spoil anything for you, but let's say that it's really, really dangerous. I would choose the devil I know, than the angel I don't.

    humm, i guess i prefer avoiding devils and seeking out angels

  • @YamiRaziel said: well...because she saves the group from the bandits.I

    Were we playing the same game? Other then Mr. Bad Ass at the start, the only bandits I saw fall, I shot. Carley covered the walkers on the left in my first play through and otherwise, the walkers were all mine too.

  • @Cyreen said: Were we playing the same game? Other then Mr. Bad Ass at the start, the only bandits I saw fall, I shot. Carley covered the walkers on the left in my first play through and otherwise, the walkers were all mine too.

    Yeah, I decided that Lilly actually put us in more danger. The leader of the bandits was about to "arrange" a new deal, in which I would have given him everything he wanted, after which I would have taken what we had left and gotten the Heck out of Macon. Instead her shot put the lives of the entire group in danger, both by exposing us to the hostility of the bandits and by attracting the walkers. She didn't even hash out a quick plan with Lee to keep him aware - she sent him ambling out blindly to get himself shot with no real promise of her plan actually working. People want to say Kenny is brash? Lilly makes more bad decisions in episode three than Kenny did in episodes one and two combined! (Puts untrained and undisciplined Ben on watch, wants to continue to stay at the motor inn despite danger of the bandits attacking, keeps knowledge of medicine theft to herself, rushing in to take the offense against the bandits while they still held guns to the back of our heads, and lastly shooting @Ben/Carley without so much as bringing up any real evidence).

  • I want Ben gone, yesterday. Forget actions. I hate his hair, his face, that stupid jacket, how he stands with that thin body, his irritating b* voice, his emo personality, everything.

    Clem has more balls than him. We had Clem & Duck cope with what happens and deaths around them in general better than him. Go on, stand on that train and be all emo Ben, thank you for everything you brought to this group (nothing / death).

    Just punch your own card already you good for nothing crybaby.

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