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Team Lily to the end (appreciation thread)

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I guess I may be the only one here who would still support Lily if she shows up at some future point in time.
Why?
I appreciate her leadership skills, her selflessness (having to make all those little decisions is really difficult) and her reasoning. She tried to keep this group together, she did her very best but some other people...like Kenny always tried to have it their way, always consider what's only best for his family.
I think we all agree it was difficult giving the rations the first time in episode two. We got a glimpse of what she has to do every day. People hated us for those choices, so they hate her even more for having to do it every day. But there's no one else who would do it.

She was still pretty reasonable until Kenny murdered her father. People can complain that he saved them and all that crap... but you couldn't have known for sure and that's the truth. He overreacted and again being the selfish asshole he is, he did the easiest choice for him. Eliminate the enemy and undermine the leader's authority.

In episode 3 we see things haven't changed. Lily is still the only one to really tries to protect the group. Lee, of course, helps always and as much as he can, but others like Kenny... they didn't even feel bad for what they did in episode 2. Kenny ruined this group and yet he still wanted things to go his way. He kept pushing Lily without really doing anything for the group. He was determined to abandon all.
Carley... she didn't really do anything. She could've stepped in and helped Lily when she saw she was about to snap... but she didn't. The only thing she actually did was tease Lee, look cute, and avoid participation in almost every important discussion. The downfall in episode 3 is partially her fault as well.
When the bandits attacked the group it was again Lily that came to the rescue to a group that hated her. Kenny wouldn't swallow my disrespect for him and actually tried to get me killed too many times in this episode.
Ben... and Kenny really started a chain reaction. With both their stupidity combined they managed to indirectly kill Carley, Katjaa and Duck as well destroy the group from within.
Both cowards and both DUBM as a bag of hammers.
I would so love to see them gone in episode 4 & 5. I don't need stupid people in my group, people who know nothing about responsibility or humanity.


It was sad to see Lily snap but I guess there is a line as to where a person can take it. In the end of the day I'm sure she'll regret her choices and will eventually learn from them. She kills Lorry cause she believes they are threatening her group. When she sees how wrong she was she offs the Governor. That's a pretty redeeming deed in my book, one that clearly shows she actually develops.

I would certainly love to see more of her in future episodes/seasons.

So, am I the only one? :D Even if I am, I will still be defending this position to the end :P

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  • @Rock114 said: That IS a good point. Shows how much he cares...

    Kenny says something at the start of Ep 3 when he asked if Clem still hates him for stealing from the car and if you say you don't know Kenny says something like "do you even talk to her anymore" made me laugh.

  • You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

    There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

    Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

    Making Ben the obvious suspect.

    Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

    This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

    Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

  • @DreadMagus said: You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

    There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

    Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

    Making Ben the obvious suspect.

    Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

    This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

    Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

    If there was ever a 'an open discussion' night with the devs I'd love to hear their take on this. I mean, it is so blatant how Lily kills her you cant help but think it wasnt a straight out assassination.

  • [quote=xarne;678905]if there was ever a 'an open discussion' night with the devs i'd love to hear their take on this. I mean, it is so blatant how lily kills her you cant help but think it wasnt a straight out assassination.[/quote]

    PLAYlNG DEAD

  • @DreadMagus said: You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

    There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

    Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

    Making Ben the obvious suspect.

    Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

    This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

    Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

    Actually she does blame both Ben and Carley. It depends how you play it. Plus if you have Doug, she goes straight for Ben.
    Apparently she was distrustful of Carley, as I am of Kenny :p

  • @DreadMagus said: You know, another thread got me thinking about something...

    There's only been a week between episode 2 and 3....

    Ben's only been there a week... meds can only have been missing a week....

    Making Ben the obvious suspect.

    Yet... She also accuses Carley and then takes her down like a zombie.

    This means.... either she used this to take out a rival or she really did go batshit crazy.

    Sloppy writing? Or a real flaw to the character?

    Maybe Lily realized what was going on when the bandits stopped attacking. Before the St John Dairy incident they never had a problem with the bandits. So, bandits start attacking after St John, all of a sudden they stop and drugs start coming up missing. That would leave anyone as a suspect, and if she had suspicions of Carly from the start they probably insified greatly during the argument.

  • I saw that in the TV show Andrea is going to Woodbury with Michonne instead of Rick. I guess they're gonna change stuff cause some things might be too inappropriate for a TV show.
    Do you think that they will remove Lilly's part in the prison arc entirely or do you believe that she'll make some sort of appearance?
    Daryl, Merl, the death of Dale and the uselessness of T-dog are already changing too much.

    My bet is that T-Dog and Daryl will die. Daryl is getting too legendary to live and T-Dog is just way to useless to keep paying this actor :p

  • Just wanted to share my love for Lilly <3 I'm currently reading the comics & starting soon the governor book.

  • @Deventh said: Just wanted to share my love for Lilly <3 I'm currently reading the comics & starting soon the governor book.

    Great :D There are not many Lilly fans ;)
    What do you think about the other female characters in the comic book? Andrea, Lori, Maggie... I can't recall all of them

  • Well, i just started reading the comic book so i can't really tell you much on that. On the tv show, however... I can tell that Lori is very annoying and a bitch for playing with Shane's feelings like that. She told Rick that Shane was a danger and after Rick "dealt" with him or rather protected himself she went mad at him lol. Andrea is awesome for now and i can't wait to see what is waiting for her in the next season. Maggie is a really casual and i don't have a real opinion for her so far.. only the fact that she took the death of her daughter kind of lightly :confused:
    I felt really bad that Shane died, but i guess that was unavoidable. He was also one of my all-time favourite in the series. This scene was so badass ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ila0W2hLYw

    PS. Lilly is such a great character... It's a real shame that people don't see what the creators tried to do with her and see her feelings through the game.

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