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Why all the hate from Kenny?

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Does not helping Kenny when it comes taking care of Larry make him pretty much hate you for the best part of episode 3? Just asking because I haven't gone against him at all other than trying to stay neutral at the beginning of ep 2 which seemed to count as siding with Lilly and I didn't help with Larry in the meat locker. Like I saved duck, stood up to Larry, fed duck both times, let the woman get eaten as a distraction, consoled him over Shawn but he talks to me like shit for most of ep 3 and in the scene where you have to get him to stop the train he says you're not my friend you've never done a damn thing for me or something like that but I've done loads for him lol and I read a comment on YouTube where someone did the same as me but Kenny says something like you didn't do the right thing when it came to Larry but I still appreciate all the help you've given my me and my family. So just wanted to know if helping Lilly in the meat locker makes Kenny forget everything you've done for him? Ha is the comment I read a load of bs? Was it the same for you guys or did he still remember the stuff you did to help him? Awesome game though!

Thanks!

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  • The larry thing does affect your relationship but he can still pretty much be your friend provided you side with him for most of episode 3.I went against him with larry and sided with lily for most of ep 3,i fought him in the train but i feel now in the next episode hopefully lee will be able to help kenny move on and we can be good friends again. I haven't forgot that Kenny saved my life in episode 1.

  • Yeah, the meat locker choice is the biggest thing that determines your friendship with him and Lilly. No matter what you've done, or who you've sided with, whoever you help in the meat locker becomes your friend and whoever you dont help hates you. I helped him with Larry, but didn't steal the food and killed the girl in episode 3 and he and I are still best friends. It makes the covnersation on the train a bit different depending on if he likes you or not. Personally, I'm GLAD I sided with him, because it kind of seems like Lilly supporters got cheated when she left.

  • I love Kenny. He's a hypocrite, but that's part of what makes him a very multidimensional character just like the rest of the cast. I'd rather kill Larry, Larry is mostly an asshole and having Kenny as your bro is awesome. Regardless whether you blame him for Shawn's death in ep 1, he gives you a ride to Macon. Regardless of whether you helped him kill Larry or not, he still defends you when Lilly tries to justify herself using Lee's past. Regardless of how you treat Lilly, she's still a bitch and kills Carley or Doug. His hypocrisy makes me upset but that's part of what makes him a realistic character, and for having flaws, I really like him. Just like Larry, he just looks out for his family, and there's nothing wrong with that. Kenny isn't a total ass about it, though...

  • Thanks guys but don't suppose you know anything about the dialogue on the train where even if you didn't help with Larry he still refers to all the times you helped him? I personally don't think it exists but think it should because for him to say I'm not his friend and never helped him seems unrealistic considering all the times I've had his back, but like you said Natalie he is flawed so maybe in the state he was in at the time he didn't consider it. Would also like to say Kenny is an awesome bro if you side with him when it comes to Larry but if you don't you see a darker side to him... He won't help you when Dan is about to kill you and at the beginning of ep 3 he will eye the door rather than help you, nevertheless I still like Kenny and will definitely try to get back on good terms which we are on kind of on since we both want look for a boat (said I would help clem look for parents before we find it though) and showed him compassion when it came to duck but I think the make or break of the relationship may possibly be whether or not you leave omid and/or go looking for clems parents when he insists the boat comes first. Unfortunately I think Kenny and I are probably going to end up butting heads over something very serious and you guys may think he's your best bud but he was willing to let the guy who backed him in every single way, saved his kid, stood up to larry, took the supplies and kept his son fed die! Which I will try to forgive but never forget haha, as for Lilly leaving cheating people I disagree because she murdered carly/Doug which was sad but great for shock value, this made it impossible for her to stay. I believe the reason you could side with Lilly was to create drama between you and Kenny in the later part of the episode and possibly future episodes, so basically siding with Lilly adds to the drama between Lee and Ken

  • Kenny is written as a classic coward. The few times when he does something seemingly "heroic" was for his family. He is a character written as someone who is out for himself. Even saving his family benefited Kenny, so Kenny saved them.

    But Kenny will not stick his neck out for someone else unless it benefits him in some major way, unless the writers cheat.

    And if he does not commit suicide in episode 4 (and the writers have already hinted that he won't, as he is now focused on not looking back but moving forward) then Kenny will take looking out for himself to a new level with no family to hold back his selfish and cowardly ways.

    But congrats to the writers. Killing Carly drew me into the story by pissing me off. Though I don't think Lee would have taken his eye off Lily knowing she was so close to the edge, and thus, it should not have happened.

    Though at times Lee's dialogue has bugged me, I understand it is because they are trying to write Lee as much for everyone as for one person, but I think some of Lee's auto-dialogue choices should be based on the actions he's taken as well.

    Lily's personality sort of reminds me of Six from the New Battlestar Galactica.

    So far they have done a much better job with The Walking Dead than they have with their other games. Everyone involved seems pretty passionate about it. I just hope they don't end up having to "cheat" their way to an ending by forcing a break in character.

    They should definitely be allowed to license this for another five episodes, but they should also be working on something else too?

  • They've already announced a Season 2 for Walking Dead I think, or at the very least they've said that this isn't the last Walking Dead related project they'll work on.

  • @Jokieman said: So far they have done a much better job with The Walking Dead than they have with their other games. Everyone involved seems pretty passionate about it. I just hope they don't end up having to "cheat" their way to an ending by forcing a break in character.

    They should definitely be allowed to license this for another five episodes, but they should also be working on something else too?

    Agreed. The thing that killed the Jurassic Park game was arbitrarily turning characters into "evil characters" just because they had no idea how to move the plot forward. It frustrated me to no end and killed most of any good will I had for the game (it still wouldn't have been great but it wouldn't have been as bad). I hope the writers for this game are smarter than that, because turning Kenny or someone into a straightforward villain would just suck the fun.

    And while I cannot wait for Season 2 of this, I would really love to see Telltale put more investment into original properties. It's fine to do adaptations, but at some point you need an original flagship property to also lean on. So far none of their original work has been able to do that. They just need to back a good story that they can say is a wholly original property.

  • It's a money thing. By going with projects that already have a huge following in the TV / Movie / Past game popularity segment they have a bit of built in revenue there.

    But I agree. They really need to work on something wholly their own.

  • @Jokieman said: Kenny is written as a classic coward. The few times when he does something seemingly "heroic" was for his family. He is a character written as someone who is out for himself. Even saving his family benefited Kenny, so Kenny saved them.

    But Kenny will not stick his neck out for someone else unless it benefits him in some major way, unless the writers cheat.

    And if he does not commit suicide in episode 4 (and the writers have already hinted that he won't, as he is now focused on not looking back but moving forward) then Kenny will take looking out for himself to a new level with no family to hold back his selfish and cowardly ways.

    But congrats to the writers. Killing Carly drew me into the story by pissing me off. Though I don't think Lee would have taken his eye off Lily knowing she was so close to the edge, and thus, it should not have happened.

    Though at times Lee's dialogue has bugged me, I understand it is because they are trying to write Lee as much for everyone as for one person, but I think some of Lee's auto-dialogue choices should be based on the actions he's taken as well.

    Lily's personality sort of reminds me of Six from the New Battlestar Galactica.

    So far they have done a much better job with The Walking Dead than they have with their other games. Everyone involved seems pretty passionate about it. I just hope they don't end up having to "cheat" their way to an ending by forcing a break in character.

    They should definitely be allowed to license this for another five episodes, but they should also be working on something else too?

    Actually, the Kenny in my game isn't a coward. I've never seen his "coward" side because my main playthrough is with him and I love it. He's a pretty cool guy if you take his side, as I'm sure Lilly isn't the she-devil she is in my game if you side with her.He'll stick his neck out for his friends and family, but he could care less about strangers.I'd let him watch my back any day in my game, and personally am glad that he's coming into Savannah with me. The only person I trusted more was Carley.

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