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[SPOILERS]Ben's character and deeds

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Either you saved Carley or Doug. These great characters shall be avenged. Yeah, Lilly killed them, BUT Ben was giving the extra stuff to the bandits, wich caused the whole thing.

These were great characters, ones who shouldn't be forgotten. Ben, a stupid little teenager who is more scared of everything then a 12 year old.

Please, by joining this thread, you 100% guarantee that you WILL kill Ben, at the first time you get.

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  • I'm in the "wait and see" camp. Puppy dumb Ben probably isn't going to survive much longer, but I still hope he has the opportunity to mentally grow up before he goes out.

  • Meh, Ben is acting exactly how I expected him to. He wants to be in the group for protection but either feels no loyalty toward it or doesn't know how to express it. He's incapable of understanding that surviving a ZA takes team-work, and from the looks of it just wants the benefits of being in a group without any of the responsibilities. And to think, the brat had the balls to tell me that he was going to be able to step up, not that I expected him to. Well, I knew he would continue to be a liability, which is why I was upset I couldn't exile him in Ep. 3, and now from the looks of the trailer, he's still carrying a gun, so that's one gun that won't be of any use unless I get the opportunity to boot him after he abandons Clem.

    I said before I don't hate the kid, I think I still don't, he's just the average or somewhat below-average scared 18 year-old, but as he is, he's not just dead weight, he's a parasite living off the group's goodwill without contributing anything in return and Lee's entire group is in jeopardy if they don't cut him off. *sigh* Someone is going to need to get the group a copy of the ZA Survival Guide for Dummies if they want any of the group members to survive the season at this rate.[/rant]

  • I don't hate the kid when he was the one who stealing supplies and give them out to the bandits. He's doing it for his and everyone's safety.
    After I saw episode 4 trailer, I don't like the way he ran away and left a little girl alone with the zombies. That move that he made, I know I can't trust him at all. He can do this move again on anybody. Being a wussy can't keep you living and you must fight back. I guess he doesn't get it yet.

  • @Hoqt said: I don't hate the kid when he was the one who stealing supplies and give them out to the bandits. He's doing it for his and everyone's safety.
    After I saw episode 4 trailer, I don't like the way he ran away and left a little girl alone with the zombies. That move that he made, I know I can't trust him at all. He can do this move again on anybody. Being a wussy can't keep you living and you must fight back. I guess he doesn't get it yet.

    That's not true; Ben says he did it because the bandits claimed to have one of his friends. Giving into their demands was just stupid anyway, as I've noted elsewhere; even if the bandits were telling the truth (which I doubt, we know what sort of people they are thanks to Jolene), they have no incentive to ever let that friend go, he's their new golden goose.

    As much as Lilly may have lost it, she was correct that the theft of those supplies was like sneaking into somebody's room and killing them. Hell, I've made the same observation even before the current episode on the topic of "post-apocalyptic justice". It's not like today where you can just make another trip back to the grocery store or pharmacy if somebody stole your food or medicine. In a post-apocalyptic scenario? Nobody's restocking the store shelves, the "low-lying fruit" is likely going to be gone within the first few months - if somebody gets an infection, the theft of stuff like antibiotics could be a death sentence, to say nothing of the obvious effects of a food shortage.

  • @Rommel49 said: That's not true; Ben says he did it because the bandits claimed to have one of his friends. Giving into their demands was just stupid anyway, as I've noted elsewhere; even if the bandits were telling the truth (which I doubt, we know what sort of people they are thanks to Jolene), they have no incentive to ever let that friend go, he's their new golden goose.

    As much as Lilly may have lost it, she was correct that the theft of those supplies was like sneaking into somebody's room and killing them. Hell, I've made the same observation even before the current episode on the topic of "post-apocalyptic justice". It's not like today where you can just make another trip back to the grocery store or pharmacy if somebody stole your food or medicine. In a post-apocalyptic scenario? Nobody's restocking the store shelves, the "low-lying fruit" is likely going to be gone within the first few months - if somebody gets an infection, the theft of stuff like antibiotics could be a death sentence, to say nothing of the obvious effects of a food shortage.

    He said one of the bandits was his friends? What episode is that? Don't tell me episode 3, I didn't play that yet on ios

  • @Rommel49 said:
    As much as Lilly may have lost it, she was correct that the theft of those supplies was like sneaking into somebody's room and killing them. Hell, I've made the same observation even before the current episode on the topic of "post-apocalyptic justice". It's not like today where you can just make another trip back to the grocery store or pharmacy if somebody stole your food or medicine. In a post-apocalyptic scenario? Nobody's restocking the store shelves, the "low-lying fruit" is likely going to be gone within the first few months - if somebody gets an infection, the theft of stuff like antibiotics could be a death sentence, to say nothing of the obvious effects of a food shortage.

    so in a country as big as america, where a low estimate is that 80% of the human population are dead, everyone is just gonna run out of medicine in a few months, not likely, i couldn't quite say how many pharmacies are in macon or storage warehouses but as a rough guess i would say loads.

    maybe in a few years certain things would expire and the heavily used things will be scarce but by then the clever humans who have survived should have come up with some alternatives, the only good thing about a zombie apocalypse is the abundance of everything that has been left behind

  • @thestalkinghead said: so in a country as big as america, where a low estimate is that 80% of the human population are dead, everyone is just gonna run out of medicine in a few months, not likely, i couldn't quite say how many pharmacies are in macon or storage warehouses but as a rough guess i would say loads.

    maybe in a few years certain things would expire and the heavily used things will be scarce but by then the clever humans who have survived should have come up with some alternatives, the only good thing about a zombie apocalypse is the abundance of everything that has been left behind

    Odds are you're not the only people out there ganking stuff, that's the problem. The most common ideas like looting nearby stores and warehouses when the crap hits the fan are just as likely to get you killed... The nearest stores to your home are also the nearest ones to the homes of a thousand other shmucks. Within a week of Katrina hitting New Orleans there were already armed people looting places like grocery stores.

    Even if we assume death tolls of 90 - 95% that's still literally millions of people in the country that need the same supplies and may well have beaten you to the punch (atleast for low-hanging fruit) which means having to take bigger risks, etc. for the same resources, and those resources aren't getting replaced, once they're used, they're gone.

    It's important to remember that when you talk about "clever humans" you're also talking about your competition.

  • Actually lol, those guys just wanted to get high on Oxycodone, that’s it.

    But, still, if you see the beginning of Episode 2, you can notice many arrows embedded in the makeshift barricade, so they got harassed this whole time.

    Maybe by another group, I don’t know, but in Episode 3, you can clearly notice that one of the bandits got a crossbow.

    I do hope he will redeem himself some time later on in the game!

  • Technically, Ben may have saved everyone. Ben was the one that told everyone that you turn if you die, so no-one would know and Larry might have come back and killed someone in the meat locker.

  • I feel for Ben.

    He's a young man. Incompetent in a lot of ways, but he's not an adult. Frankly, I think Mark was more of a whiny, incompetent drain than Ben - and given he had army training and was an adult, that was less forgivable.

    By Episode 5, Ben does start helping. He gives Lee the gun he drops while the group hides out in the attic. He's the last one up those attic stairs, and he's the last one to jump out the window (which ends up being a huge sacrifice). Even in Episode 4, he's the second to last to leave the school. During all these times, he put himself at risk so others could get away first.

    Running away with Clementine surrounded by walkers was no different a move than Kenny running away from Shawn at Hershel's farm. But like Kenny, Ben can start redeeming himself.

    Mark is just a big blubbering baby from the start to finish of Episode 2.

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