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So... about the St. John's Brothers

posted by Brohan on - last edited - Viewed by 511 users

Who actually killed them/ let them live? And why? :p

I killed Danny because he is a sick fuck. thinking Lee's group will eat him after he is killed, and I killed Andy because she pulled Clementine's hair, & like in the trailer Lee said "... is gonna end up dead."

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  • @Rock114 said: Which is why I'm glad I decided to spare Andy at the very end. And I think shooting him is the better one, because Lee yells one final time as he steadies the rifle: "IT'S OVER!"

    Yeah that is pretty awesome. I havn't enjoyed a game as much as I'm enjoying this game in a very long time. The writers are top-notch and the voice acting is perfect.

    Really looking forward to the next episode.

  • I left them both alive.

    After what just went down in that meat locker, I was still feeling pretty disturbed so I couldn't bring myself to off Danny in cold blood. Like Lee says, 'That's not how the world works now.'

    The same went for Andy, although I did beat him to a pulp (because at that point my shock had turned to anger, but I still was never going to kill him). The moment that music started playing though and Andy had resigned to his fate actually made me sad.
    I never thought I'd feel sad for the bad guys in a game like this.

  • @RedKoolLoops said: I left them both alive.

    After what just went down in that meat locker, I was still feeling pretty disturbed so I couldn't bring myself to off Danny in cold blood. Like Lee says, 'That's not how the world works now.'

    The same went for Andy, although I did beat him to a pulp (because at that point my shock had turned to anger, but I still was never going to kill him). The moment that music started playing though and Andy had resigned to his fate actually made me sad.
    I never thought I'd feel sad for the bad guys in a game like this.

    it is pretty disturbing hearing someone that hates you ask you to kill them, i first noticed that in system shock 2 :)

    actually they both wanted to die, maybe they were deep down appalled at what they had become and just wanted it to end

  • Well I killed Danny, but I left Andy alive to suffer with the knowledge that his entire family was dead in one night.

    FOR MARK!

  • Danny was incapacitated and no threat so I left him, hoping Lilly would do it for me. I seriously considered killing Andy because grabbing Clem pissed me off, instead I just beat him to a pulp, told him both his family were dead and left him for zombiefood.

  • the 1st time i played i helped kenny in the meat locker and then spared Danny
    but quickly turned off my xbox when lilly said somthing like "you kill my dad but let this pos live"

  • Killed neither, didnt really want to traumatise Clem any further. Besides, why get my hands dirty when the walkers are obviously going to kill em for me? Danny was trapped in a beartrap and Andy had been beaten to a pulp :P

    Im also not going to start executing people on my own authority.

  • I havent kill them because their punishment must be more severe.

  • I killed them both. They were a danger to other survivors, I had the opportunity to stop them, and they were too dangerous to take responsibility for them by making them part of the group. There's no judicial system, so punishments are pretty much limited to execution and exile. Exile can't be used if the survivor is a danger to others, as the St Johns were.

    However, I agree with taking a vote on what to do. Lee didn't need to make the decision alone, and Clem didn't need to watch executions. With the zombies, there wasn't much time to vote. It would have been fine to leave the St Johns behind (even though they would probably die), because they weren't part of the group, and the group is responsible for survival over justice. If the St Johns were part of the group, it would have been better to take them along and then vote on their fate. The St Johns might have fled in that case, but that's a privilege of group membership.

    I don't agree with purposely leaving the St Johns alive but sabotaging their defenses or otherwise making sure the St Johns don't have a fighting chance against the zombies. Make a decision on whether to execute them, not pretend that indirectly killing them is morally better than killing them. It's not justice or keeping your hands clean to make the St Johns suffer in terror before the zombies get them. It's cruel.

  • Killed Danny. I didn't expect a bear trap to keep him down if I left him... in a shed full of... well you saw what was in there yourself. I'd prefer a pinned down zombie. I was not aware that Clem was watching however and felt a little regret just as I'd done it. But had I left him, either Lilly would've used him to take out some anger or the zombies would've claimed him.

    I let Andy be. I think I'd weakened him beyond the point of being a threat. And it didn't appear that he had any effective weaponry in reach. And I already made the mistake of letting group members see a side of me that I didn't want them to see.

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