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Give Ben a Chance!

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So you all think Ben isn't a sympathetic character? You think Ben's a big dumbass? You think Ben should die?

Jerks.

Ben is us. I'm serious, in the real world we are all what Ben is, the guy that means well and occasionally makes things worse when he's trying to help out.

Okay, I can tell that didn't work. You all think that you're better than Ben. My bad, I forgot that each and every one you is the King Arthur of your own Camelot fantasy and of course you'd just never ever fuck up in a zombie apocalypse. Fine, go sit in your throne and scoff at me. But think about this while you scoff down caviar tonight.

Ben's character is redemption personified. He has messed up, and yeah, he feels guilty. But if you never give up on him, even when he gives up on himself, I have a feeling that he will eventually come through.

I am now staking my prediction: Ben's character is going to have a major moment in Ep.5. He will literally be Super Ben. He will like, somehow save Lee's life or something. Or maybe something slightly less significant, I don't know what, the point is that Ben is going to do something awesome and everyone of you who let him die will literally choke on your shark fin soup when you realize I'm right. How dare you.

Or I could be totally wrong, in which case I give you all permission to shit all over this page while I denounce and reject myself.

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  • Probably the only thing Ben did that helped the group, was when Lee had a choice to pull him up or drop him, and Ben said, "take Clementine and the others to safety." I knew then, that I couldn't let him die. That was the first time he was willing to sacrifice himself for other people. Plus, with Carley saying how Lee was a great man for taking care of others and defending Ben in Episode 3, and Clementine defending Ben and how friends can't be left behind, I knew I couldn't leave Ben to die. No matter how stupid he is lol.

  • I thought it said 'Let him up' and accidentally killed him...

    Oops.

  • I don't understand why anyone would purposely let him go, that's just cruel. Despite your opinion on him you really having nothing holding you back from saving a life, and if you really hated him that bad death isn't right. Just force him out of the group, better choice then murder.

  • Ben's like a reverse King Midas, everything he touches turns to crap.

    If he's not screwing up with a criminal lack of common sense, he was just plain cowardly, e.g. abandoning Clementine when he was armed... and who had the lapse in judgement to even give the kid a gun I have no idea.

    Trading with the bandits was just plain stupid considering Jolene gave us the story about what happened when she "begged them every way she could" for her daughter and we know how that turned out. Oh yeah, the people known for little things like rape and murder are surely going to be above lying.

    And pulling the hatchet out of the door that's covered top to bottom in blood? Really? This shouldn't require any sort of explanation. It didn't occur to him to atleast ask "hey, this seems kinda strange, is this maybe important?".

    He's had his three swings, and they were all strikes. He causes, or contributes to the deaths of no less than three people (And no, I'm not counting Carley/Doug) and abandoned Clem to be eaten alive. The only redeeming quality he had is that he finally understood he was dead weight the group shouldn't have to pull.

  • I saved Ben and convinced him to help the group look for Clem. He owes her that much...

  • I saved him too in this Episode. Reason being I just HOPE will get better & that we need as many people alive in a group.

    But seriouslly, he done fucked it up 3-4 times in this episode.

  • @ReliusBlue said: I thought it said 'Let him up' and accidentally killed him...

    Oops.

    :eek:

  • If I have to choose between him and Kenny, it's Kenny.
    If I have to choose between him and Clem, It's Clem.
    If I have to choose between him and Chuck, It's Chuck.
    If I have to choose between him and Christa-Omid, It's them.

    But if I have a chance to deliberately kill him, I won't kill him.

  • @Rommel49 said: Ben's like a reverse King Midas, everything he touches turns to crap.

    If he's not screwing up with a criminal lack of common sense, he was just plain cowardly, e.g. abandoning Clementine when he was armed... and who had the lapse in judgement to even give the kid a gun I have no idea.

    Trading with the bandits was just plain stupid considering Jolene gave us the story about what happened when she "begged them every way she could" for her daughter and we know how that turned out. Oh yeah, the people known for little things like rape and murder are surely going to be above lying.

    And pulling the hatchet out of the door that's covered top to bottom in blood? Really? This shouldn't require any sort of explanation. It didn't occur to him to atleast ask "hey, this seems kinda strange, is this maybe important?".

    He's had his three swings, and they were all strikes. He causes, or contributes to the deaths of no less than three people (And no, I'm not counting Carley/Doug) and abandoned Clem to be eaten alive. The only redeeming quality he had is that he finally understood he was dead weight the group shouldn't have to pull.

    LMAO oh that simile is the perfect description for Ben. Reverse king midas, that's golden hahaha :D

    In all seriousness though, every time I see his face it just reminds me of what happened at the motor inn. After episode 4 he angered me even more. I still pulled him up though since I'm not willing to kill anyone that is not a direct threat to lee's life or clem's. He is easily the character that I hate the most in the Walking Dead

  • I will admit I really was irritated by Ben and his lack of confidence in handling himself. Also the fact he was responsible for Carley, Kat and Ducks deaths really made me upset at him.. But I thought about something, he is just a 100% scared as hell teenager that has survived because of our group. If he had been alone there is no doubt in my mind he would have been killed already... I really understand why he is dysfunctional in the ZA. I mean think about it, you are a teenager everyone in the group is mad at you for screw ups, your parents are dead and everyone else you knew in your life is dead as well. You have a great feeling of no self worth and none seems to care about you. I understand that in an apocalyptic setting ppl are going to be more concerned about living than feelings but he is in a stage of his life where all these mixed emotions are running wild and he hasnt matured yet to think logically. This is how I see him, and I couldn't let him go when I had the chance, I couldn't allow one of group members to die especially a kid/teenager.

    I mean really would you let a 16-18 year old kid die just because of his mistakes??? The fact of the matter is he will have to live the rest of his life knowing his actions allowed for 3 people to die even though he was thinking about helping the group. I think thats punishment enough. I know many of us in real life couldnt handle that, I know I couldnt.

    Also the fact he wanted to tell Kenny that it was his fault actually made me respect him a little more, he had the guts to tell the man it was his fault. I dont know if many of us could do that.

    End post lol.

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