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People are huge hypocrites!!!

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When episode three came, everybody was complaining on how they hated ben and wanted him to die. They failed to realize he was trying to help the group. Episode four comes along and ben tries to sacrifice his life. 78% of people saved him instead.
During the first two episodes, people were complaining how duck was a burden to the group. Episode three comes and everybody is depressed because duck died.
Why do people act this way?????? :confused:

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  • Felt like total shit for letting go, even though both he AND Kenny let me know it was alright. Poor bastard broke his legs to get eaten at the bottom of the tower...

  • @firedog122 said: When episode three came, everybody was complaining on how they hated ben and wanted him to die. They failed to realize he was trying to help the group. Episode four comes along and ben tries to sacrifice his life. 78% of people saved him instead.
    During the first two episodes, people were complaining how duck was a burden to the group. Episode three comes and everybody is depressed because duck died.
    Why do people act this way?????? :confused:



    I'm actually glad for the hypocrisy in this case. Because if you think about it, despite the animosity or disgust these people feel for Ben, they're willing to save his life despite their personal feelings.

    I was quite happy when statistics show over half of people chose to save Ben. It makes feel a lot better about the human race. I'm a bit of a cynic when it comes to people and this kind of gives me newfound optimism. So if a ZA were ever to occur at least I still know that there's people out there willing to reach out to their fellow man.

  • @Red Panda said: You make is sound as if killing his is the only way to expel him from the group. It's a faulty dilemma.

    I can agree with everything you say and it still doesn't necessitate I kill him.

    In theory, I could kick him out of the group or just leave the group, as two other possibilities.



    With that guy's survival skills, if he leaves the group, he is as good as dead.

    And honestly, it's easy to get caught up in the emotions behind saving him vs. letting him go. However, when you're in a situation like that, you've got to consider the safety of the group and the girl that you are protecting and whose life you are responsible for.

    The other factor that doesn't really come into account is that Carley/Doug's death as well as Kat and Duck's are fresh in the group's mind. I know that it is an unintended side effect of the episodic format, but would as many people be as forgiving if they played the series for the first time all in a row?

  • It's not really hypocrisy. People constantly say what they don't mean when speaking out of anger.

    I dropped Ben, but only because he asked me to. I mean it. If he hadn't looked me right in the eye and begged for his heroic sacrifice, I would have pulled him up without hesitation. I also would have let Kenny smash his face in a little. Can't let him completely off the hook.

  • I save him because Clementine forgave him. Simple as that.

  • I almost thought Ben was gonna be one of those cases where he dies and there's nothing you can do. What Ben did with the bandits was stupid but i don't hold it against him.

  • @ashesandwine said: I save him because Clementine forgave him. Simple as that.



    This.

    Ok to some degree, we could be hypocrites. But aren't we as human beings allowed to make a mistake to begin with, realize our mistake, and forgive and give compassion to someone when circumstances change based on new evidence? Wouldn't it be worse to hold a grudge against Ben just so I'm not made a hypocrite?

  • @HNKenshiro said: This.

    Ok to some degree, we could be hypocrites. But aren't we as human beings allowed to make a mistake to begin with, realize our mistake, and forgive and give compassion to someone when circumstances change based on new evidence? Wouldn't it be worse to hold a grudge against Ben just so I'm not made a hypocrite?



    My thoughts exactly and very eloquently put. It's nice to know that there are large number of people with the capacity to do good rather than what is pragmatic.

  • @NikolajDeluke said: Define 'Traitor'.

    Noun:
    A person who betrays a friend, country, principle, etc.

    I'd like to add on that by Betrayal, they mean for purely malicious reasons. Ben probably saved their LIVES by making deals with bandits in exchange for keeping them safe. Otherwise, well, let's just say, there probably wouldn't have been an Episode 3, or 4, or 5. At least not with the same cast, cause they'd be, kinda, you know, like.. Dead?



    Sometimes you only have what actually happened to base your decisions upon. Ben was asked if he was the one giving supplies to the bandits and he said no.

    Later, after a few deaths have occured, he then admits he was in fact the one giving supplies to the bandits. When a person tells lies that makes them a liar. So he is the traitor and everything else is the testimony of a liar. He said he did it to save his friend, he later said he did it to save the group. Which lie do I go with? Not that it matters when dealing with a lying traitor.

  • @Kiel555 said: Sometimes you only have what actually happened to base your decisions upon. Ben was asked if he was the one giving supplies to the bandits and he said no.

    Later, after a few deaths have occured, he then admits he was in fact the one giving supplies to the bandits. When a person tells lies that makes them a liar. So he is the traitor and everything else is the testimony of a liar. He said he did it to save his friend, he later said he did it to save the group. Which lie do I go with? Not that it matters when dealing with a lying traitor.



    He's also a coward. He left Clementine to die with those walkers in order to save his own ass. He may not have been malicious in his intent, but how many group members do you let him kill before you decide that enough is enough?

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