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[SPOILERS]The Walking Dead Episode 4 REVIEW Thread

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Yup, this is it. Post your long and short, detailed or general, random or specific thoughts about "Around every Corner" right here.

No spoiler tags necessary, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU'VE PLAYED THE EPISODE!!!


AND I'll add an open poll to this thread for you to rate the episode on a scale from one to ten. It's not a substitute for a constructive review... it's just because I like polls.

Please ignore the results if Gary Whitta votes a 10. :D

edit: I created the poll as an open poll so you could see who voted which number... but it seems like Jake had different plans. So now Gary can vote and you wouldn't even know. ;)

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  • Some of you really need to have a word with yourselves. You let Ben die 'cos he made some mistakes. He never intentionally hurt the group, he's just a coward and a bit of an idiot.

    He gave supplies to the bandits as he thought that was the best way to keep them at bay. It might've turned out to be a bad move, but his intention was to help. He did what he thought was best.

    Nothing he did even comes close to deliberately letting go of a man's hand and letting him fall to his death, when you had every chance of saving him.

    So to punish a man for making a few dodgy decisions that inadvertantly led to a couple of characters dying, you deliberately kill a man?

    Great logic!

  • @ChickVelcro said: Nothing he did even comes close to deliberately letting go of a man's hand and letting him fall to his death, when you had every chance of saving him.

    So to punish a man for making a few dodgy decisions that inadvertantly led to a couple of characters dying, you deliberately kill a man?

    Great logic!



    To be fair, I was VERY forgiving of Ben in episode three, even though I realized then that he was very clearly a raging fuckup. But on my playthrough of episode four, he was also a defensive, smug little tool who screwed up multiple times on the one incredibly simple task I gave him. I'd been spoiled before playing that you can let him drop, and I was seriously considering it. But I didn't, because once again, Clementine informed my decisions.

    Even so, one could argue that Ben WANTED to be dropped so he could distract the other zombies and buy Lee & Co. more time to get away, which wouldn't make it a punishment -- it would make it a noble gesture from someone who had sorta effed things up from the start.

  • @ChickVelcro said: Some of you really need to have a word with yourselves. You let Ben die 'cos he made some mistakes. He never intentionally hurt the group, he's just a coward and a bit of an idiot.

    He gave supplies to the bandits as he thought that was the best way to keep them at bay. It might've turned out to be a bad move, but his intention was to help. He did what he thought was best.

    Nothing he did even comes close to deliberately letting go of a man's hand and letting him fall to his death, when you had every chance of saving him.

    So to punish a man for making a few dodgy decisions that inadvertantly led to a couple of characters dying, you deliberately kill a man?

    Great logic!



    There are only so many mistakes one can make before I have to draw the line. Ben indirectly caused the deaths of Carley/Doug, Duck, Katjaa, Chuck, Brie and depending on your playthrough, Molly. Almost every character that you can build a connection with that dies is as a result of a silly decision by Ben.

    Also he wanted to be let go. He wanted to help the group escape and finally make a right decision. I did feel bad that the fall didn't kill him. To have him break his legs and then get chomped on was a bit too far for me but that was the way it had to be.

    I know his heart was in the right place but his decision-making was truly horrible. I agree that dropping him was a little too far but for me he had to go and there was no option in the game to simply let him leave the group. It was either drop him to the zombies or have him in your group. With diminished numbers and the situation involving Clem and Lee, I can't afford Ben slipping up anymore.

    Like I said, if he could have left the group alive I would have went with that but unfortunately for him, it was the drop or nothing.

  • i sided with kenny the hole time . i agreed to kill larry etc . i think we did have a fight about something on the train but other then that i saved his ass millions of times and then at the end he spits in my face and doesnt come with me to look for clem . well next episode im gonna let him die in the gutter like the redneck trash he is .. i let ben die because he just puts everyone in danger . he isnt work keeping around he is useless.

  • @epicdsl said: i sided with kenny the hole time . i agreed to kill larry etc . i think we did have a fight about something on the train but other then that i saved his ass millions of times and then at the end he spits in my face and doesnt come with me to look for clem . well next episode im gonna let him die in the gutter like the redneck trash he is .. i let ben die because he just puts everyone in danger . he isnt work keeping around he is useless.



    its possible you have the save glitch which gives you random choices instead of yours. had to delete/re-install mine to get rid of it.

  • @ChickVelcro said: Some of you really need to have a word with yourselves. You let Ben die 'cos he made some mistakes. He never intentionally hurt the group, he's just a coward and a bit of an idiot.

    He gave supplies to the bandits as he thought that was the best way to keep them at bay. It might've turned out to be a bad move, but his intention was to help. He did what he thought was best.




    I too saved Ben, but I have to disagree with you somewhat. I'm not sure I'd say he didn't intentionally hurt the group. He's clearly displayed his cowardice enough times that I think he made the deal with the bandits and covered it up to protect his own sorry hide. I don't think he had the interests of the group at heart then.

    So while I was wondering why I saved him I remembered the iron-clad sureness with which I ditched Lily and realized the difference.

    While competent in a fight, Lily went beyond the moral event horizon with her first words in episode one: She wanted to abandon three adults and two children to the dead simply because she was a control freak who was more concerned with the pecking order than what the right thing to do was. Murdering Carly was the cherry on the top of her sundae of badness.

    Ben of course did just about as much damage. But while he is stupid, cowardly and weak, he clearly doesn't want to be. Unlike Lily he knows the difference between right and wrong and, even if he's usually gone with wrong, it's eating away at him. That could be the beginning of some moral fiber for a high school kid whose biggest problem before the outbreak was probably how to talk to girls.

    So Ben can see the path and wants to walk it and is therefore redeemable. If he had begged to be saved when he was dangling over that pit I ... I probably would have still pulled him up, though I would have been angrier at him. He is just a teenager after all, and myopic selfishness is one of the last things people grow out of. That's if they ever manage it at all, see Kenny and Lily.

    And as paradoxical as it sounds, telling Kenny what he did, let alone doing it then, came from a desire to make things right. Sad to think the kid still thinks apologizing can correct something like that. He'll have to live with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life.

    Heh. Just like us players.

    Aaaaanyway…

    So apparently the entire story has been about this: Lee's redemption for whatever he did before the outbreak by giving up everything to save Clem.

    At this point, I almost feel sorry for the SOB who's got Clem. Lee is the Walking Dead himself now and doesn't have much time. I for one wouldn't want to get in his way.

    Here's hoping he goes full Batman on that bastard.

  • I just finished playing episode 4 and am still in shock. I can't believe Lee was bitten, When the walker shot out from cover I though "Oh damn it! He better not have gotten me!" When I saw the bite my heart sank. I have grown pretty attached to Lee and once he was bitten I immediatly thought about what was going to happen to Clem. Kenny, Omid, and Christa came with me to find her, I let go of Ben. At first I wasn't sure what to think of him, he was a kid who was jumpy and didn't seem like he could handle himself in tense situations. Then after Carley was killed and Ben told me later he was responsible I wanted to shove his lying ass of the train!! He was the reason Kenny's family died and it was stated in episode 4 that he was the reason. He even left Clem alone surrounded by walkers!! When I got the opportunity to drop Ben I took it. A guy like that needed had no business with the group because he would have gotten everyone killed. I want to know when episode 5 is coming out because I really want to see how this ends and how Lee will punch out. If it were me I would want to die before I turned at the hands of a friend. Only after I knew Clem would be cared for though.

  • I don't know about everyone else but from killing the starving kid/zombie, finding out Clementine was kidnapped, and that Lee is bit; I was like,

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    whyyyyyy cruel gaming world

  • Before lee goes walker. I want him trapped in the room with the bastard who took Clem...

  • I came here to try and find a way to prevent Lee from getting bitten but it looks like it will happen no matter what. :(

    As for my choices. I let Ben go because he ran off and let Clementine get surrounded. In the end Ben cares only about himself and I never want to look to him for help cause he'll never give it or be of any use. Plus there was limited space on the boat so if I had to pick who doesn't get a ride it would be him, anyway. It's sad that he broke his legs and didn't die, that sucked but whatever, I would never trust him and he's more of a danger to the group than the walkers.

    I chose to leave Molly, she was too iffy and I didn't even know if I could save her.

    I also chose to hide my bite out of fear the group would not help me with Clem. Everyone went with me including Kenny even though I didn't have his back all the time, but I guess I agreed with him when it really mattered which probably affected his decision. I agreed with him to leave Lily, I stayed with him to find the boat, et al. Also to leave Savannah instead of staying in that house another day.

    at the end I chose "What do you want from me!?"

    I so want that butt hole on the radio to get stomped by Lee!

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