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Kirkman on bites

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I Decided to look it up this what i found not sure if its true but it says they quoting Kirkman on the bites and turning into a zombie.

Robert Kirkman wrote:
The rule is: WHATEVER it is that causes the zombies, is something everyone already has. If you stub your toe, get an infection and die, you turn into a zombie, UNLESS your brain is damaged. If someone shoots you in the head and you die, you're dead. A zombie bite kills you because of infection, or blood loss, not because of the zombie "virus."[3]

So if Lee does not get a fever or have lots of blood loss he wont become a zombie.

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  • @Galdis said: Lee is going to become a zombie. The protagonist is going to turn into a zombie. Deal with it.

    pretty much.

    if someone cut lees entire arm off seconds after he was bitten, and he received a bunch of antibiotics -- then we'd have a discussion.

  • @Sir Fruitcakes said: Its the equivalent to getting bit by a komodo-dragon, you Die from the bite not because of the wound, but because of whats on the wound, Lee will end up dying, dont try to fool yourself, the comics have shown it doesn't care and TTG is trying to mirror him, He is Dead people... I don't like it either but Lee is gone come episode 5.

    Check your source. The reptile you mentioned is in fact one of the few venomous lizards on our planet. Sure it is a scavenger and its saliva is full of germs, but it has in fact venom glands to make sure a bite is most likely going to end up lethal.

    Zombies aren't venomous. Nevertheless, Lee is going to die. As much as I hate the railroaded, inevitable bite, Episode 5 is going to be Lee's final hours.

  • @Jokieman said: What is really irritating is if you watch the TV series, as soon as they get bit, they begin running a super high fever and usually die from that. It doesn't mesh with the whole "We're all infected" theory because they can't really offer up a good reason as to why the bites always cause the exact same symptoms, high fever then death.

    What makes a human bite so dangerous is all the disease that people carry.

    Human bites have been shown to transmit hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex virus (HSV), syphilis, tuberculosis, actinomycosis, and tetanus. Evidence suggests that it is biologically possible to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) through human bites, although this is quiteunlikely. (SeePathophysiology, Presentation, and Workup.)

    But each one of these would develop different symptoms. Unlike when they are bitten on the show.

    Unless a bite from a walker is like some sort of catalyst which kick-starts the virus that everyone carries.

    I haven't read the comics so perhaps Kirkman has offered a plausible explanation for this in the books.

    Although what Kirkman says here doesn't mesh: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Zombies#Reanimation

    That would indicate that there should only be a 10-15% infection rate, and the symptoms won't always be the same. It also doesn't explain the super-high fevers that happen very quickly.

    Great points.

  • @shedim said: Check your source. The reptile you mentioned is in fact one of the few venomous lizards on our planet. Sure it is a scavenger and its saliva is full of germs, but it has in fact venom glands to make sure a bite is most likely going to end up lethal.

    Zombies aren't venomous. Nevertheless, Lee is going to die. As much as I hate the railroaded, inevitable bite, Episode 5 is going to be Lee's final hours.


    Zombies aren't venomous per se, but having rotting meat contact your bloodline can't be too healthy either. I know there is no ptomaine as such, I just don't think it would be a good idea to try it out.

    Rubbing a rotten chicken breast on an open wound would most likely cause an infection and could well lead to death if no proper treatment was taken. This idea doesn't cover a bite by a "newly raised" Walker of course. ;)

  • @Jokieman said: What is really irritating is if you watch the TV series, as soon as they get bit, they begin running a super high fever and usually die from that. It doesn't mesh with the whole "We're all infected" theory because they can't really offer up a good reason as to why the bites always cause the exact same symptoms, high fever then death.

    What makes a human bite so dangerous is all the disease that people carry.

    Human bites have been shown to transmit hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex virus (HSV), syphilis, tuberculosis, actinomycosis, and tetanus. Evidence suggests that it is biologically possible to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) through human bites, although this is quiteunlikely. (SeePathophysiology, Presentation, and Workup.)

    But each one of these would develop different symptoms. Unlike when they are bitten on the show.

    Unless a bite from a walker is like some sort of catalyst which kick-starts the virus that everyone carries.

    I haven't read the comics so perhaps Kirkman has offered a plausible explanation for this in the books.

    Although what Kirkman says here doesn't mesh: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Zombies#Reanimation

    That would indicate that there should only be a 10-15% infection rate, and the symptoms won't always be the same. It also doesn't explain the super-high fevers that happen very quickly.

    I'm sorry jokieman, I don't see the relation the Kirkman's response you hinted at. The reality through the series and all other zombie genre's is that a bite one causes an infection that kills you. Amputation has been hinted at and has showed in some books/movies that it can work if done soon enough. However I think the debate is less about that then why the virus accelerates when introduced into a human body by a bite.

    Why are we trying to debate the cannon of books and movies? If that is what you want to do, write your own book and change the virus. I don't want to sound like a jerk but damn, it is what it is....it won't change

  • @8Bit_System said: Zombies aren't venomous per se, but having rotting meat contact your bloodline can't be too healthy either. I know there is no ptomaine as such, I just don't think it would be a good idea to try it out.

    Rubbing a rotten chicken breast on an open wound would most likely cause an infection and could well lead to death if no proper treatment was taken. This idea doesn't cover a bite by a "newly raised" Walker of course. ;)

    Unless it is a an infection caused by a virus, bitten people could be easily cured by treating them with antibiotics.

  • Why is this such an issue? There are viruses today that we cannot cure but can only treat the symptoms (in some case resulting in death; Hanta Virus, HIV, etc.), I think this conversation is like beating a dead horse.....no point. If it was that easy, the ZA would be over, game over, books done....just accept the fact that we cannot change it.

  • @shedim said: Unless it is a an infection caused by a virus, bitten people could be easily cured by treating them with antibiotics.

    Not all non-viruses can be cured by a simple dose of meds...ever hear of the super-infections in hospitals that can't be stopped with antibiotics?

  • @Demonseed said: Why is this such an issue? There are viruses today that we cannot cure but can only treat the symptoms (in some case resulting in death; Hanta Virus, HIV, etc.), I think this conversation is like beating a dead horse.....no point. If it was that easy, the ZA would be over, game over, books done....just accept the fact that we cannot change it.


    You shouldn't beat horses... dead or alive... you should much rather sing with them!

    http://www.heuhof.de/en/pferde.html

  • @Jokieman said: What is really irritating is if you watch the TV series, as soon as they get bit, they begin running a super high fever and usually die from that. It doesn't mesh with the whole "We're all infected" theory because they can't really offer up a good reason as to why the bites always cause the exact same symptoms, high fever then death.

    What makes a human bite so dangerous is all the disease that people carry.

    Human bites have been shown to transmit hepatitis B, hepatitis C, herpes simplex virus (HSV), syphilis, tuberculosis, actinomycosis, and tetanus. Evidence suggests that it is biologically possible to transmit the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) through human bites, although this is quiteunlikely. (SeePathophysiology, Presentation, and Workup.)

    But each one of these would develop different symptoms. Unlike when they are bitten on the show.

    Unless a bite from a walker is like some sort of catalyst which kick-starts the virus that everyone carries.

    I haven't read the comics so perhaps Kirkman has offered a plausible explanation for this in the books.

    Although what Kirkman says here doesn't mesh: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Zombies#Reanimation

    That would indicate that there should only be a 10-15% infection rate, and the symptoms won't always be the same. It also doesn't explain the super-high fevers that happen very quickly.

    I understand where you're coming from. I suppose though if I was going to nitpick I would say we're not talking about human bites here. We're talking about reanimated corpses.
    Many of which are eating animals as well as people, bits and pieces of their meals stuck between their teeth and everything else. It's a bit more than just a human bite.
    I'd imagine if you took a bunch of rotting flesh/dna from various animals and humans, threw it in a blender and threw that concoction into a wound.....see where I'm going with this?

    Very well possible that everyone would have different reactions, but in a world with little/no antibiotics I could see that causing some problems.

    While I mention antibiotics.. I don't think between game/comics/tv show have I seen anyone try to treat the bites with those..?

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