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Main reason why I saved Ben

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To put it simply, it's because he practically begged me to drop him. Finally realizing the damage he has done to the group he is willing to give his life to help make it right and for Lee to get away. Now if he was begging me to pull him up I honestly would have dropped him, but because he knows deep down on some level he deserves what is happening to him and is at peace with it and wants you to let him die for the group shows that he is willing to do the right thing. If the roles were reversed and it was Kenny hanging, he would not ask that of you, he would demand you pull him up even though Ben and him both carry guilt for Duck and Katjaa's death (Ben for his actions at the motor inn, Kenny for leaving Shawn to die resulting in Karma getting back to him with his son's death).

Before this episode I kinda gave Ben the three strike rule. First was not telling Lee about the deal with the bandits, second was running away from Clem leaving her to the walkers, and the third was removing the hatchet causing Brie's death. After all that I was like, "Okay this guy had enough chances, he's done", but after he speech to Kenny and to Lee at the bell tower I just couldn't let him die. He is now completely accepting of his role in multiple deaths, was willing to die because of them, and now as we walk onward to save Clem, I truly believe he is gonna step up and do whatever it takes to make it right, he no longer cares if he lives or dies at this point, his only goal left is to try and make things right and I believe in the end he will die saving Clem.

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  • @skepticalguy90 said: I don't think the people that save Ben are stupid. I can see why you want to save him. I think the real difference between the two viewpoints is morals vs. pragmatism (or more likely utilitarianism - at least for me).

    I didn't mean that people who save Ben are stupid, sorry if it came out like that. I meant that I'M stupid because I would just give the boy another chance even if he got most people killed and I started disliking him. Maybe it's because I can actually see myself being Ben in a ZA (even my age is around his), or maybe I just feel sorry for him. But I also do understand where people who want to kick him out are coming from, the boy messes up beyond belief.

  • @Viser said: I didn't mean that people who save Ben are stupid, sorry if it came out like that. I meant that I'M stupid because I would just give the boy another chance even if he got most people killed and I started disliking him. Maybe it's because I can actually see myself being Ben in a ZA (even my age is around his), or maybe I just feel sorry for him. But I also do understand where people who want to kick him out are coming from, the boy messes up beyond belief.

    I think it's a fundamental difference in perspective as well. Some people are optimists, some are pessimists.

  • I wouldn't have been able to watch someone die while I could have saved him. Even if Ben wanted to die for the group, that was just suicidal, and I couldn't let that happen. No matter how stupid, coward, dramatic,.. - 7 minutes later - ...and bad at surviving he was. Same happened with Lilly, she was paranoic, and did shoot Carley/Doug, but I just wouldn't have led her behind, she was mentally unstable and was going through a lot, just like Kenny right now.

  • Well With Lee almost out of the picture. Let his earn Lee's place on the boat.

  • @Wilder41 said: Well With Lee almost out of the picture. Let his earn Lee's place on the boat.

    I'm hoping Molly will take that one :P

  • @Rock114 said: I hope he doesn't die saving Clem. I actually like Ben. He's been with the group longer than anyone but Kenny.

    Actually, in game time he hasn't been in it very long. Between episode 2 and 3 was a week. Episode 3 lasted a day or two. Episode 4 started the same/next day, and lasted for a day or two.

    In terms of the amount of episodes he's been in though, yeah, He's just behind Kenny and Clem.

  • really good point OP, kinda glad i saved him now,

  • @skepticalguy90 said: Lee was a professor at a University, Kenny was a fisherman. Nobody was "ready" for the apocalypse. Hell look at Carl from the show/comics. In a few months, Carl is a hardened veteran. It's just a bullcrap excuse to say that it's a lot to ask him to man up. Clementine is another good example. You think she had to make hard decisions beforehand? What you're asking Ben to do/not do are not things that he isn't capable of. He's just a moron.

    He's Just a Kid though,all kids F*ck Up he lost 2 people he was friends with in the first few weeks of the apocalypse. Im pretty sure if my best friend died I be F*cking up left and right.

  • Sure, Ben has excuses and he's not actually a bad guy, but that doesn't change the fact that not only does he screw up, but also when he does screw up, people die. When Ben removed the hatchet from the main door, everyone there could've died. A disaster magnet like him is just too dangerous to keep around.

  • @AGentlman said: He's Just a Kid though,all kids F*ck Up he lost 2 people he was friends with in the first few weeks of the apocalypse. Im pretty sure if my best friend died I be F*cking up left and right.

    and if I were in the group, I'd leave you behind too. No room for f-ing up. :P

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