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Disney Buys Lucasfilm (and other stories)

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...and, by extension, LucasArts (since that's what we all really care about, I know).

http://www.benzinga.com/news/12/10/3039512/disney-to-buy-lucasfilm-for-4-05b-in-cash-and-stock

I know, with the likes of Star Wars and Indiana Jones being snatched up, the LA catalogue probably isn't a big priority but I wonder what this could mean for the future of some of our favorite adventure games?

Could a Monkey Island theme park ride be in our future? Hmm.

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  • @Gman5852 said: Well nevermind then, let me rephrase.

    What Disney does to star wars cannot be worse than what the prequal movies did and it cannot be worse than what Disney has done...

    Can it?


    What they do to Star Wars is inconsequential. The major effects that this deal has are much farther-reaching than "maybe they'll make some bad Star Wars stuff".

    They now own ILM, which means ILM and Pixar can both work together to worsen artist conditions without it being collusion. The artistic labor market has taken a major blow.

    They have invested $4.05 billion into legacy IP. They will then invest on top of that by producing content within that IP to recoup costs. Since Marvel's valuation is roughly equivalent, we're looking at a major loss of potential cultural capital.

    This money could have been used to make:

    -20 movies with the budget of Toy Story 3
    -25 movies with the budget of Tarzan
    -36 movies with the budget of The Lion King
    -59 movies with the budget of The Little Mermaid
    -97 movies with the budget of Aladdin
    -122 movies with the budget of Fantasia
    -187 movies with the budget of Snow White

    Budgets adjusted for inflation.

    On top of paying $4.05 billion dollars just to own the license, they're going to be occupying top filmmaking talent and an extra ~$200 million per film rehashing an older franchise and turning a blind eye to new creators because they have a $4 billion investment to make pay off for them.

    The farther-reaching industry effect of Disney purchasing Marvel and LucasFilm is that the largest focus of one of the handful of companies that determine what we get in terms of cultural capital is in recycling things that have been successful in the past. That's harmful. By comparison, I really don't care if Darth Vader is re-imagined as a teenage boy who tries desperately to win over Padme through making it big as a teen pop sensation, and ultimately uses the Force to pull off rad dance moves in an inspirational finale. I just don't.

  • @Rather Dashing said: What they do to Star Wars is inconsequential. The major effects that this deal has are much farther-reaching than "maybe they'll make some bad Star Wars stuff".

    They now own ILM, which means ILM and Pixar can both work together to worsen artist conditions without it being collusion. The artistic labor market has taken a major blow.

    They have invested $4.05 billion into legacy IP. They will then invest on top of that by producing content within that IP to recoup costs. Since Marvel's valuation is roughly equivalent, we're looking at a major loss of potential cultural capital.

    This money could have been used to make:

    -20 movies with the budget of Toy Story 3
    -25 movies with the budget of Tarzan
    -36 movies with the budget of The Lion King
    -59 movies with the budget of The Little Mermaid1
    -97 movies with the budget of Aladdin
    -122 movies with the budget of Fantasia
    -187 movies with the budget of Snow White

    Budgets adjusted for inflation.

    On top of paying $4.05 billion dollars just to own the license, they're going to be occupying top filmmaking talent and an extra ~$200 million per film rehashing an older franchise and turning a blind eye to new creators because they have a $4 billion investment to make pay off for them.

    The farther-reaching industry effect of Disney purchasing Marvel and LucasFilm is that the largest focus of one of the handful of companies that determine what we get in terms of cultural capital is in recycling things that have been successful in the past. That's harmful. By comparison, I really don't care if Darth Vader is re-imagined as a teenage boy who tries desperately to win over Padme through making it big as a teen pop sensation, and ultimately uses the Force to pull off rad dance moves in an inspirational finale. I just don't.

    Methinks the Dashing doth protest too much! ;)

  • @Rather Dashing said: What they do to Star Wars is inconsequential. The major effects that this deal has are much farther-reaching than "maybe they'll make some bad Star Wars stuff".

    They now own ILM, which means ILM and Pixar can both work together to worsen artist conditions without it being collusion. The artistic labor market has taken a major blow.

    They have invested $4.05 billion into legacy IP. They will then invest on top of that by producing content within that IP to recoup costs. Since Marvel's valuation is roughly equivalent, we're looking at a major loss of potential cultural capital.

    This money could have been used to make:

    -20 movies with the budget of Toy Story 3
    -25 movies with the budget of Tarzan
    -36 movies with the budget of The Lion King
    -59 movies with the budget of The Little Mermaid1
    -97 movies with the budget of Aladdin
    -122 movies with the budget of Fantasia
    -187 movies with the budget of Snow White

    Budgets adjusted for inflation.

    On top of paying $4.05 billion dollars just to own the license, they're going to be occupying top filmmaking talent and an extra ~$200 million per film rehashing an older franchise and turning a blind eye to new creators because they have a $4 billion investment to make pay off for them.

    The farther-reaching industry effect of Disney purchasing Marvel and LucasFilm is that the largest focus of one of the handful of companies that determine what we get in terms of cultural capital is in recycling things that have been successful in the past. That's harmful. By comparison, I really don't care if Darth Vader is re-imagined as a teenage boy who tries desperately to win over Padme through making it big as a teen pop sensation, and ultimately uses the Force to pull off rad dance moves in an inspirational finale. I just don't.

    You definitely know your research, I'll give you that.

  • @Rather Dashing said: By comparison, I really don't care if Darth Vader is re-imagined as a teenage boy who tries desperately to win over Padme through making it big as a teen pop sensation, and ultimately uses the Force to pull off rad dance moves in an inspirational finale.

    Actually, that sounds like an awesome idea. Someone should pitch that.

  • I'm not so concerned about it.

    The truth is that Lucasfilm only cared about milking Star Wars and Indiana Jones, and the only other movie of note that Lucas has done recently is Red Tails, which is a complete rip-off of The Tuskeegee Airmen--complete with having Cuba Gooding Jr. as a star in both films--which further shows his complete lack of originality.

    LucasArts has also been in a similar mode for ages, wherein they almost entirely only care about making Star Wars and Indiana Jones games, such that their other IPs like Monkey Island or Maniac Mansion are lucky if they ever see the light of day (which Maniac Mansion has not).

    The worst that can happen with this is that LA's IPs lay dormant forever, while Star Wars is further ruined and milked for all it's worth. Wait, what? That was already happening without Disney.

    The best that can happen is that Disney makes, or licenses others to make, new games based on LA's old IPs and allows Steam and GOG to sell the old LA games we love. Whether said new games are good or bad isn't really the point, since the only reasons why no such games were being made by LA has nothing to do with whether someone thought a given franchise warranted a sequel and all about LA execs sitting on their thumbs for reasons unknown.


    yes, CGI animators might suffer for ILM and Pixar being under the same umbrella now, but in my opinion CGI is waaay overused in movies these days anyway.

    tl;dr: for Disney to take LA/LF in any direction, it's at least better than no direction at all, which is what we've had.

  • There's one thing i don't understand about Lucasarts and it's this. They refuse to give Telltale any of their games so Telltale can make a new Monkey Island game or Maniac Mansion game but they won't make the games themselves (No instead we have to get Darth Vader dancing because we all know that's what everyone wanted right?)

    But if they sold the game rights to Telltale then Lucasarts would get money. Even if they didn't sell it and just allowed Telltale to make another Monkey Island then wouldn't Lucasarts get some of the money from the sales. I mean i just wonder why they just don't sell the game rights to Telltale so then everyone will be happy. Also maybe Ron Gilbert could make Monkey Island 3a :D.

    But since unless we get extremely lucky it seems that it will be a very long while before we see the wanna-be pirate in another adventure...So can we have Sam & Max season 4 after King's Quest & Fables? :D

  • You're forgetting that LucasArts is run by idiots. I suppose it technically still is, but here's hoping the new idiots will be less idiotic than the old idiots, who were stupidly idiotic.

  • @Darth Marsden said: You're forgetting that LucasArts is run by idiots. I suppose it technically still is, but here's hoping the new idiots will be less idiotic than the old idiots, who were stupidly idiotic.

    Maybe in Kingdom Hearts 3, we can go to Melee Island :D, Also Darth since your a huge Stars Wars fan, tell me what was your reaction to seeing Darth Vader, Han, The Emperor dancing around in Star Wars Kinect?

    Edit:Being fair i trust Disney more that Lucasarts when it comes to games. Lucasarts gave us Star Wars Kinect, Disney (& Square Enix for Kingdom Hearts) gives us Kingdom Hearts & Epic Mickey.

  • I'd hardly call myself a 'huge' Star Wars fan. But my reaction was to shrug and declare that the fanbase deserves what it gets. The dancing Leia is amazingly hot though, so all was instantly forgiven.

    When it comes to games, Disney tends to outsource a lot more, so yeah, I'd call that better. Then again, Star Wars games tended to be outsourced a lot as well in the old days, so I guess that's one thing they have in common.

  • Well now that Disney has Lucasfilm & Lucasarts, i think there could be more hope for Monkey Island and other Lucasarts adventure games.

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