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What's the more human thing to do in this series?

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What do you think is the more human thing to do in this series? As a person with morals etc. have you

-Killed Larry with Kenny (Ep 2)
-Sacrificed Ben (Ep 4)

done any of this in the game?

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  • @Rock114 said: Either of those choices can be argued as being morally right. I think letting Ben die was wrong, however. Personally, I think it was morally right to kill Larry and keep him from coming back, which would have resulted in the deaths of everyone in the meat locker, Kat and Duck, along with Carley/Doug and Ben. My Lee doesn't risk the lives of the entire group just for one person who, IMO, was dead anyway. That doesn't mean I liked doing it.



    I would have agreed to kill Larry if he was was BITTEN but his status was so ambiguous that it was wrong to be hasty and kill someone when you have no idea. It's the only time when I disagreed with Kenny.

  • If there had been more selections, I would have restrained Larry using clothes and salt licks. It would be funny if he woke up with no shirt and two guys standing over him in their underwear. Plus, there would be two guys in their underwear xd. Luckily ,for some, some people don't see being an asshole, or inexperienced etc. as big enough reasons for killing someone.

    This is probably why crawford fell, when things started going wrong, rather than looking out for each other,they were only looking out for themselves - screw everyone else.

  • @Evinshir said: .

    Edit: You also make a fundamental flaw in your argument by assuming that sticking to your morals guarantees death. The point is, if you have reason to believe that someone WILL get you killed, then you find a way to not put them in those situations. You don't make them the leader, you don't give them the riskiest job. You work with them and help them get over their shortcomings. THAT's how you survive. Not by killing them off.



    sounds alot like what your doing more so than me..

    ben wasn't given any sort of big responcibilty other than clem, YET he still fucked up and got people killed..

    lee has tried to set him straight in a baptism of fire kinda way and warned him later on he's seconds from death and he says drop me....

    ben gave up he wanted to die..why would you go against his wishes? why would you allow an obvious suicidal person to stay with you ? all he's going to do is find danger and try to die which then leads others in to the same situation to 'save him' which then causes more problems.

    oh yeah it's human it's moraly rich and good for everyone

    seriously...

  • @Milosuperspesh said: sounds alot like what your doing more so than me..

    ben wasn't given any sort of big responcibilty other than clem, YET he still fucked up and got people killed..

    lee has tried to set him straight in a baptism of fire kinda way and warned him later on he's seconds from death and he says drop me....

    ben gave up he wanted to die..why would you go against his wishes? why would you allow an obvious suicidal person to stay with you ? all he's going to do is find danger and try to die which then leads others in to the same situation to 'save him' which then causes more problems.

    oh yeah it's human it's moraly rich and good for everyone

    seriously...


    He's not suicidal, the only reason he wanted to be dropped is because he thought doing that it would give time for the rest of us to get away from the walkers in crawford. So I don't know where trying to get here.
    seriously...

  • @SonnyN18 said: He's not suicidal, the only reason he wanted to be dropped is because he thought doing that it would give time for the rest of us to get away from the walkers in crawford. So I don't know where trying to get here.
    seriously...



    So the first time he can be of use to the group and you take that away from him?

  • suicide = choosing to end your life on your own terms, ben asked to be dropped and let go of lee's hand.

    lol cthulu nice point.

    almost can't be arsed with this thread anymore....

  • When decisions need to be made more often than not you don't have the luxury of pausing to gather your thoughts, questioning what's the moral call or discussing with the group & thinking it through. It needs to be an instinctual & reactionary response.
    And I think this is where many of you've missed the boat.
    I'm not trying to tell you you need to give up on virtue & I'm not Satan tempting you to relinquish your soul or to come to the dark side.
    Lemme put it this way, in a time before modern society, humans would gather at the camp fire and listen to the elders tales of hunts and conflicts.
    To the "warriors" and young adults it was a given that the elders knew what they were talking about because through their leadership the tribe/group had survived thus far. There was simply no place for moral ambiguity. To ignore the wisdom was foolhardy and placed the lives of everyone at risk. Furthermore there was no place for individual think, the group/tribe was more important than any one member, and the group would harshly punish or cast out those who didn't conform, more often than not resulting in death.
    In a ZA or any world wide extinction event those who would be able to revert to early mans survival modes & life styles would be the ones who'd survive. This isn't a question of judgment, it's a simple fact. There would be no "right" to survive nor would there be any moral or human aspect to it. You simply would or would not.
    If the species prevailed then once again society would evolve to a point where there would be a place for personal liberty, rights and moral judgment, but only if.

  • @Malphaxis said: .
    And I think this is where many of you've missed the boat.



    putting it mildly ;)

    all this pro ben stuff is repeating he has rights, he's human, it's moral to save him.

    but as mal has put it assuming the pro ben camp did this on the 'first' play through then it may hold water 'i did it for clem'.. so your reasoning for saving ben is an 8yr old girl who likes everyone ? yet is a clear danger to the group ? oh it doesn't matter if clems ok..

    Thats my beef with you people the logic your using is bullshit.

    oh sure that applies to others if clem likes them they are safe but wait, she liked carley(not sure on doug), boom head shot, she liked duck and he got bitten, she liked katjaa boom head shot...she didn't want lee to kill anyone oops we met cannibals and lee of's the lot of em..

    even molly caved in to clem if you don't beat her down first..

  • @Milosuperspesh said: but as mal has put it assuming the pro ben camp did this on the 'first' play through then it may hold water 'i did it for clem'.. so your reasoning for saving ben is an 8yr old girl who likes everyone ? yet is a clear danger to the group ? oh it doesn't matter if clems ok..



    I didn't bring Clem to Crawford so that reasoning doesn't really apply to me, and I'm sure it doesn't apply to many other people. And yeah, this discussion isn't really going anywhere, you're not gonna convince pro-Ben people you're right and we're not gonna convince you we're right XD

    Anyhow, I just think people are exaggerating on how much of a threat Ben could be. It's not like he's gonna keep making mistakes forever, any normal person would learn from those mistakes so the situation doesn't repeat itself, but that's just the way I think.

  • i haven't 'not taken clem' yet so i dunno how that affects things. (don't spoil it)

    the thing is ben is thinking he's doing good, he actually believes that right up to the last second before things go tits up.

    3rd times the charm..

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